Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[Andres]

I CREATED THE FOUR HORSEMEN **** IT! This is how I am treated! I better be mafia next game so I can take you all out.

EDIT: Here is the entire story of the Four Horsemen. I was pissed that at the very end of Capo I got killed by a random person and I disliked working for ATPG and town leaders in gneeral (I will never follow them ever, for future reference) so I decided to get my Tavern friends to make a vig group that would create choas for the town just for the sake of messing with everyone. We assigned everyone a random number and every night used a random number generator to choose who we would kill for the lulz. That's everything about the F.H. somehow probability ****** me over and we killed the bad guys and I end up being killed in the exact same way as Capo.

i swear, next mafia game someone better make me a serial killer or a mafia don because I have a lot of revenge to deal out.

This game is evidence that random vig kills by townies, even if they are done to sabotage the town, are not necessarily bad.

btw Andres, the only reason I turned against you was that I became mafia and didn't think it was fair to my teamates to go full mutiny mode

No need to apologise. I'm just a bit disappointed that we never got a succesful mutiny.

I found Louis' total lack of comprehension for my quest for mutiny highly amusing

Cher ami, there was no logic, no good reason, nor special motivation in my role pm. I'm Belgian

[Subotan]

Not to be mean, but the 4H as MVP? Gibson and Scottish were great lucky shots, but many innocents died needlessly too.

That was our original intention.

This game is evidence that random vig kills by townies, even if they are done to sabotage the town, are not necessarily bad.

Oh yeah, I totally agree. I was pressuring you so much early in the game so that people wouldn't connect me with my night actions . So sorry about that

[Yaropolk]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it get together with 3 of its buddies for bloody murder.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

If the 4 horsemen still need a target, consider this conversation. TC's reaction completely changed my thoughts on him. Please don't post in public.

I'm writing both of you to propose an amiable resolution to your conflict. Captain Rabbit sent me a spreadsheet with everyone's actions. I'm pleased to see that we're down to about 5 suspects. On the nights when the rapier killer appeared there were several people with unconfirmable actions (protects that didnt get attacked), one of those being TC.

Given the amount of help that TC has contributed to the town effort, I find it unlikely that he'd turn to the mafia once his goal is accomplished, but weirder things have happened, so I can understand CR taking a precaution by demoting TC.

However I think all this is doing is shooting ourselves in the foot by turning an ally into an enemy. I believe I've thought of a more or less foolproof way in which TC's powers can be confirmed tonight.

The list of possible suspects is down to about 5 people, and will be down to 2 after CDF/RR and one other results come back. I suggest that CR ask the 4 horsemen to target one of the remaining suspects. If the horsemen are sour after the roleblock last night, then I can throw them a hint "off the record".

Tincow will roleblock one of the 4 horsemen. This should be reflected in the writeup as only 3 killers showing up to attack. If a rapier kill happens on the same night, this will confirm TC innocense and CR will reinstate him as QM tomorrow. If TC fails to block we get rid of a suspect but he's not cleared.

How does that sound?

Do what you want. CR demoted me so that he could kill me without worrying about the 50% failure rate. Anything else he says is a lie.

He messaged me that he will not try to kill you tonight. If he does then I will stop protecting on his orders and vote for a mutiny tomorrow. Clearly for my plan to work you must be allowed to work unobstructed tonight. I suggest you both calm down and consider it. The alternative is wasted resources on the town's part to subdue TC and a guaranteed loss for TC.

Well, you realize that I have a more immediate problem: If you guys kill the mafia tonight, I lose. Since you kicked me out of office, the only way I can now win is to make sure you DON'T kill the mafia tonight. This is the situation CR has put me in; what am I supposed to do? There is no way I CAN'T oppose you tonight. If I go along with you, I'm probably aiding in my own defeat.

There are no pro town power roles which can kill other than regular townie vig groups the foremost of which is the 4h and First Mate. From the plans CR revealed to me FM will be busy investigating someone, and you will block the 4h.

CR can kill solo, we've seen it.

Based on the fact that he only made use of the ability once, and the writeup explicitly mentioned CR by name I'd guess its a one shot silver bullet ability. If I am wrong and CR kills you then he's not long for this world anyway. As i said, i am holding him to his promise that you will not be killed tonight. If you guys don't come to an agreement and he can kill, then CR has the powers to order an RB + kill you (a waste of 2 town actions i might point out)

Then just roleblock and kill me. I believe that's been CR's intention all along, so it changes nothing. He's scum, and he's been manipulating all of us the entire game. I didn't really think so before today, but this move of kicking me out without even launching a lynch case against me has convinced me. Follow CR to your peril.

Well played, CR. You'll get a HoF nomination from me for this one.

You left a few people out.

Are you saying we should kill TC? We have our own method of choosing targets and it's worked pretty well so far. So thanks for the info, but no thanks.

Kudos to TC on excellent fake role PM. You had me fooled till this conversation.

[Subotan]

That reminds me, who was the leader in terms of treasure? :O

[TinCow]

You had me fooled till this conversation.

Even before the end of that day phase, Reenk and I had already agreed to abandon ship. My public and private statements from there on out had only two objective: (1) some final fun for me since the game was about to end and (2) to make sure your attention was focused on me and not Reenk. I definitely was not trying to hide my scumtasticness at that point.

If anything, you played too aggressively, perhaps. Do you know how close I was to killing you after you tried to kill Pizza, demanding an officer role for yourself? The other two officers were not endeared to you like this. We took our money, and kept our suspicions. Then when you yesterday would not stick up for Rabbit after the crew became restless, we knew for certain you were the rapier. Rabbit left it until the end of the day to remove you so as to avoid your supporting a mutiny.

I had to play aggressively by that point. By Night 4, it was obvious that CR had hugely solidified his hold on the Captain spot. That was a massive problem for me, and I was willing to take big risks to undermine the officers. I also was not concerned with being lynched or killed at that point. Since I was responsible for Sigurd's death, I was very confident in my ability to survive any lynch move against me. I also was immune to a single night attack (an ability which was never used) so I wasn't concerned about you or anyone else killing me.

Like I said, by the time Rabbit removed me from office the game was already over. Even if I had remained QM, we would still have abandoned ship. The only goal I had at that point was keeping Reenk alive during the day and free from roleblocking at night. Some of my threats were intentionally designed to make sure you roleblocked me and not him.

[miotas]

What's an MVP?

[Andres]

What's an MVP?

Most Valuable Player

[miotas]

Ah. Well I guess F.H. for MVP would depend on whether you would award it for intentions or actions. Our intent was to throw the town into chaos and escape when it looked like we were going to be taken out, but our actions were to remove 4 mafia, and we would have gotten a 5th if cap hadn't blocked us. We just wanted to kill everyone and nick all your gold. Hardly MVP material

[Subotan]

Most Valuable Player, I think.
Edit: Shiver me timbers, Andres beat me to it.



zero... - Sigurd

[Louis VI the Fat]

Cher ami, there was no logic, no good reason, nor special motivation in my role pm. I'm Belgian

Surrealism. I should've known.

For fun, I had you in my will throughout the entire game

Of course, I was happy to discuss your pending death with Kukri. Mutiny would've been bad for the town. And disastrous for my position. I wouldn't have served under another captain again.

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I must say, I didn't expect that there wouldn't be a change of officers. I expected to be First Mate for three rounds or so. Then have another election.

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GH told me at the start of the the game that I would find it beneficial to my goal to get myself into an officer spot. I didn't know what that meant, but since a mutiny seemed impossible, that's what I worked towards. I expected to be able to kill CR when I got to QM and replace him without an election. When I got there I realized that (1) I couldn't kill him without the FO being in on the plan and (2) even if I did kill him, I still had to be elected. At that point, I felt my game was over. Everything had worked perfectly according to plan up until that point... it just turned out that the plan itself was flawed.

You had a very difficult role. Powerful and fun, but very difficult to pull off.

If anything, you played too aggressively, perhaps. Do you know how close I was to killing you after you tried to kill Pizza, demanding an officer role for yourself? The other two officers were not endeared to you like this. We took our money, and kept our suspicions. Then when you yesterday would not stick up for Rabbit after the crew became restless, we knew for certain you were the rapier. Rabbit left it until the end of the day to remove you so as to avoid your supporting a mutiny.

[Sigurd]

A great game GH... and all the rest. You just can't balance for freaky randomness.

I was unfortunate enough to get stuck in some RL issues involving a trip to Stockholm at the exact point I should have pulled some weight around in the game. Too late I discovered I had been investigated as Maven. If time and energy would have permitted, I would have tried to take the captain and the first officer with me.

Sadly I was at the end of my RL strength and had to prioritize .org out for a few days.
Having this in mind it was perfect timing. I am now back at equilibrium, with inner peace.

[Captain Blackadder]

Good game everyone