Pirate Ship Mafia [Concluded]

[Chaotix]

Looks like the mafia aren't submitting kill orders...

Vote:woad&fangs

I wouldn't bother with woads just yet. I can account for his actions last night, so I know he hasn't targeted anyone yet, at least.

Vote: Tratorix for being a traitor.

[Louis VI the Fat]

I wouldn't bother with woads just yet. I can account for his actions last night, so I know he hasn't targeted anyone yet, at least.

Pray tell, what was woad up to last night?

[Centurion1]

aye what were you and woad doing together then?

[Chaotix]

Pray tell, what was woad up to last night?

Him and I were protecting Captain Blackadder. I have a CC'ed PM from him, which is the best proof possible at this stage in the game.

I haven't heard anything from woad about what Sasaki claims- although I am not doubting him.

Obviously, he was probably distrustful of Sasaki because of Rule #1.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I wouldn't bother with woads just yet. I can account for his actions last night, so I know he hasn't targeted anyone yet, at least.

Vote: Tratorix for being a traitor.

That's interesting...I'll be very interested what woad has to say for himself. The mafia didn't kill last night so I'm not sure what use your vouching for him is...not sure how you know he didn't do anything either. If you're in a prot group does GH confirm that you all showed up?

If you start (as I do) from the hypothesis that LG was mafia, then you have to ask yourself why LG shared my suspicions of him with woad and why woad went out of his way to defend him. And why he didn't do so in the thread, and why he didn't reply to the pm etc...

[Chaotix]

The mafia didn't kill, true, but there were 2 of what seem to be mafia attempts: solo attacks. Doubtless there are more than 2 mafia in this game, but I'm fairly certain woad wasn't attacking anyone.

To be fair, my result PM doesn't mention anything about the members of the protection group, only that CB survived and I got 100 gold.

Whether or not he is guilty is a different story... and your PMs certainly throw suspicion onto him.

I do think we need more evidence or for him to show up personally and defend himself, before I decide to lynch my protection partner off the bat.

[Tratorix]

The mafia didn't kill, true, but there were 2 of what seem to be mafia attempts: solo attacks. Doubtless there are more than 2 mafia in this game, but I'm fairly certain woad wasn't attacking anyone.

To be fair, my result PM doesn't mention anything about the members of the protection group, only that CB survived and I got 100 gold.

Whether or not he is guilty is a different story... and your PMs certainly throw suspicion onto him.

I do think we need more evidence or for him to show up personally and defend himself, before I decide to lynch my protection partner off the bat.

Nvm.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

A successful protection in a group nets you 15 gold. Chaotix is lying. Vote: Chaotix

No, it gets 30 divided among the participants. I take chaotix's post to be a typo (should be 10). If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

And how did those who be in ye group contact ye? Did they come forward after ye asked for men to help ye kill LG? Or did ye go to them?

Both. Also, I was going to be part a group started by someone else attacking a protected target, but we went for LG instead.

[Tratorix]

No, it gets 30 divided among the participants. I take chaotix's post to be a typo (should be 10). If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

Or he could have just read how much gold he had. Oops.

[TinCow]

No, it gets 30 divided among the participants. I take chaotix's post to be a typo (should be 10). If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

Next time, let the suspect answer instead of giving him a spoon-fed excuse.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Next time, let the suspect answer instead of giving him a spoon-fed excuse.

I'm not concerned about chaotix. He would have claimed typo in any case, and it doesn't follow as a mafia slipup. Why would he think he supposed to get 100 gold?

But yes, I'm focused on someone else right now...this is distracting us from woad&fangs...since you like letting suspects answer, how did you like his answer to my accusation (with the picture of the bird).

[atheotes]

I guess that some orders weren't submitted, so I FoS: All Lurkers...

Vote: Psychonaut

The night phase ended at 9am in Sydney so it seems plausible that someone inactive would miss out night orders if the phase ended at an awkward time... I think that made sense - I know what I mean.

Arent you from Sydney as well?

No, it gets 30 divided among the participants. I take chaotix's post to be a typo (should be 10). If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

It is good if the money is not split three ways if one of the protectors pull out!

there were 2 solo attacks with a difference between them... Lg was able to fight off himself but Centurion needed the protectors. Was it simply because Centurion had protectors, GH decided to put them in the write up even though the attack would have failed anyway?

The 2 solo attackers could be
1. Serial Killer or secret role (Quite possible for LG's attacker if LG was British Special officer and had a % chance of survival)
2. Mafia members with a partner who failed to submit orders (Most likely)
3. vigilantes (least likely because there should be a high chance of them getting killed)

I think no. 2 is most possible and we possibly have 2 inactives each from the maven crew and British.

I also think we can clear 3 people. It would make no sense for the mafia to be committed to a protection group when the chances of that person getting hit is less than 1/40.

please correct me if ("where" is probably more apt ) i am wrong

[Askthepizzaguy]

The 2 solo attackers could be
1. Serial Killer or secret role (Quite possible for LG's attacker if LG was British Special officer and had a % chance of survival)
2. Mafia members with a partner who failed to submit orders (Most likely)
3. vigilantes (least likely because there should be a high chance of them getting killed)

Can the captain's first Mate not also perform a solo kill? Yarrr....

[Diana Abnoba]

The 2 single attackers to me seem like mafia hits. First one had protection so the attack failed. The second one, mafia hit 1st, if some players have luck like in capo, then the second hit, was VA kill and only 1 of 3 protectors showed.

@ Louis VI

I was in a protection group last night, to answer your question some posts back, confirmed by Pizza.


IC:

* Itchy Lou wakes up hungover*

Me mouth is as dry as the desert, wher's me rum.

*takes a drink from his rum bottle*

Yarrr, wher's me parrot too, here pete, where the +=$# are ye.

* Itchy Lou only finds one long tail feather*

[CountArach]

Arent you from Sydney as well?

Yes but I, on the other hand, was also notably active during that time. I also have no life...

[TinCow]

Given the lack of any kill that is identifiable as mafia (even the solos could have been vigilantes), participation in any group last night is proof of absolutely nothing. Since they weren't killing, some of the mafioso could easily have been legitimately joining in groups.

However, I am not overly concerned about the vig kill on LG. LG was a likely candidate for the lynch today, so his loss is acceptable under the circumstances. In addition, vigilante kills don't change a townie into a scumbag like they do in Capo, so simply participating in a vig kill isn't something worth lynching someone over IMO.

To be fair, my result PM doesn't mention anything about the members of the protection group, only that CB survived and I got 100 gold.

Vote: Chaotix

How did you get 100 gold, when a successful protection only awards a total of 30, which is then divided up amongst all the protectors?

30: Amount awarded for successfully protecting an individual, divided up evenly among protectors (if treasure is left over, the remainder goes to those who sent in orders earlier)

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yarrr, I be pointin' out that a group that didn't end up saving a life also nets you gold. But I'm mightily interested in what Chaotix meant by "100" gold. Perhaps he meant to say "10", but I can't speak fer him.

If you got 15 then someone skipped out of your group?

Now yer talkin'.