Tratorix - one or two killers? The wording of the write-up is not clear. Somebody help me out here: 'They were now at the edge of the ship when Tratorix grabbedthe second personby his shoulders'. ??
Iskander 3.1 - four men vig kill. Yet again.
Andres - four men vig kill.
Beefy 187 - two men. Cutlass again. English or Maven.
Andres.
If Tratorix was attacked by two men, Andres is off the hook.
At any rate, Andres' orders for last night were to abandon ship. He could not have send in orders to do anything else.
My take?
Andres started this game off as a piraty pirate. Killing, role-playing, calling for mutiny. This made him suspicious to many.
Andres killed Grizz with five people. His life was on the line over it the thread. None (except Sasaki) could be bothered to step forward, or to defend Andres. None of his fellow vig killers could even be bothered to register a vote when the vote was tied and it looked like Andres would be lynched. Some friends.
Then the next day, Andres was at it again in the thread. Calling for mutiny, and calling for Sasaki to become captain.
Then the very same night, Sasaki tries to vig kill him. Andres apparently had nobody to work with anymore.
Thus left entirely friendless, Andres tries to jump ship.
No matter how I die, the scene should carry the title
"Tragedy of a misunderstood pirate".
He did everything right.
He talked like a pirate. He refused to recognise authority, like a pirate. He laughed at those taking orders, like a pirate. He killed for gold, like a pirate. He cared only about himself, like a pirate.
Yet, somehow, somewhere down that road that is called "life", he did something wrong.
Hmm, if there really were 2 people in the attack on tratorix then Andres is cleared of being a maven (unless sigurd wasn't a maven) and his abandon ship attempt clears him of being british. Theoretically would could have someone try and abandon ship each night and have the Quartermaster block them, but that would be a gamebreaker I think.
Originally Posted by Beskar: Also: If any townies want to give gold to some one not british or those other crewpersons people I keep doing the name wrong, I am always free to accept.
Reason: Was in pt groups with me N1, N2.... then decided oh everyone is mafia woe is me I have to abandon ship. Then he didn't even attempt to do so. I smell a liar.
Also accused me of being mafia privately ( how does that help?) and didn't bother to do so publicly.
Originally Posted by : "The moral of this story is simple," his attacker said calmly. "If someone points out Ile de Tresor to you at night... it's best if you don't follow, for your own sake." He withdrew his blade and tossed the bleeding Tratorix overboard.
It looks like GH just made a mistake, EVERYWHERE else in the write up he refers to the attacker as a singular entity. Likely, GH was just referring to the attacker as the "other" man or "second" man (as in Tratorix plus the other man his attacker). He should definitely clear that up thought.
I'm interested in hearing why CDF is worthy of a lynch when all we have to go on is a dead mans claim with no evidence.
Pizza, if White_Eyes was with you on N2 we already have 2 attacks of 2 on night 2 which means he couldn't have participated. So He couldn't have been part of that. That would leave him being another role.... possibly a lone killer. Interestingly enough, a lone killer shows up on N3 the very night White_Eyes doesn't join your group and doesn't abandon ship.
Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat: Pizza, if White_Eyes was with you on N2 we already have 2 attacks of 2 on night 2 which means he couldn't have participated. So He couldn't have been part of that. That would leave him being another role.... possibly a lone killer. Interestingly enough, a lone killer shows up on N3 the very night White_Eyes doesn't join your group and doesn't abandon ship.
Vote: White_Eyes:D
I should note, my friend, that our pt groups were never attacked. Our being in them does not prove our innocence. If they were attacked, it would prove something.
My reason was a little private....didn't feel like abandoning ship with little or no chance of success....
I did nothing.....
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief: You were inactive.
Gold count: 138
138=2 protects and the money I got off pevergreen...or to break it down..
100 gold to start with
9 from three votes
4 from PM's
7+8=15 for my two protections
10 off pevergreen=138 gold....any problems?
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro: Hmm, if there really were 2 people in the attack on tratorix then Andres is cleared of being a maven (unless sigurd wasn't a maven) and his abandon ship attempt clears him of being british. Theoretically would could have someone try and abandon ship each night and have the Quartermaster block them, but that would be a gamebreaker I think.
Hrmm, that does sound correct to me. I wouldn't say it would "clear" him of being a maven, since the mavens could easily have recruited by now, but it would certainly make it highly unlikely.
Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat: Why not just abandon ship like you said you would do? Hmmm, could it be because you want to ensure your gold gets left to someone?
because there's a chance of it not working.
Look fine, whatever. Let me live and get recruited and then have all kinds of data to spill to the mafia, which I would have to do if I still want to win. Really bad idea.
Originally Posted by pevergreen: I'm taking offers of votes for gold.
You will be paid, how much depends on how long I get your vote for.
(I do this because it makes me feel special.)
Pevergreen is a liar and a cheat. He does not pay when he promises to do so. I have still not received the 7 gold he said he would pay me for my vote. Do not sell your vote to Pevergreen, because he will not pay you even if he says he will.
Originally Posted by DisgruntledGoat: Why not just abandon ship like you said you would do? Hmmm, could it be because you want to ensure your gold gets left to someone?
I wanted to leave it to Pizzaguy...but...
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D:
Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy:
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D: You have been recruited by the Mafia.....haven't you??
regardless, I think I am going to jump ship
1. Not yet.
2. As you wish.
Don't need any money in case I die attempting this right?(Being British I am sure you don't..)
White Eyes, not sure why you think I am mafia, but I have filled the gap you left and am trying to put out a minor crisis fire or two.
If you believe I am mafia, make your case publicly. If you wish to vigilante me, please do so, as I am now aware of too many power roles and I am now a rather large security risk for the ship.
Pizzaguy pretty much cut me out.....A full 360 from his Capo play...where he seemed pretty intent on keeping me in the groups...
Originally Posted by White_eyes:D: You seemed pretty intent on it being a good idea to leave at the time....no "Keep a stiff upper lip" or anything like that.....You failed me Pizzaguy
It could be a whole misunderstanding.....but regardless this is messed up...
If you wanted to leave my protection group, what was I going to do? I needed to find a replacement and deal with you later. Also I had a lot of *stuff* on my hands last night that I was trying to resolve. I.e. being a good townie and putting people into groups and stuff.
You lied when you said you were going to abandon ship. Doing nothing when we needed protectors... forgive me, but... are you really a townie, White_Eyes? And if so... what the heck?
PS- I told you basically to not lose your nerve in the PM you deleted. Oy gevalt.