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    Hello fellow EB fans!
    yesterday I dicovered this really bad trait 'Enslved his own people' (-3 influence). But I wasnt shure from wich settlement that came. As ptolies I took Meroe, Axum, Ammonion. Is one of them 'hellenic'?
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    Probably came from Ammonium, though any of them could have given it to you I think. Don't enslave/execute cities that are close to your starting provinces, especially if you're using a native general who is unselfish.
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    It is quite simple actually. Of course it was Ammonium. It was under heavy Hellenic influence, unlike the other two. Anyway, why do the Ptolies not start out with that region? I thought it was part of their kingdom, n'est-ce pas?

    In any case, "Enslaved his own people" is a very specific, carefully scripted trait that is listed in the EDCT. Various factions get it for enslaving various cities/towns related to themselves. It does not matter what general you have. There is a 100% chance you will get it if you enslave any of the scripted settlements.

    Blast, I still cannot find it in the EDCT... Oh well, I will post it later if I see it. I remember seeing it long ago somewhere, but....

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    I imagine that re-taking one of your own starting settlements and enslaving it would have this effect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    I imagine that re-taking one of your own starting settlements and enslaving it would have this effect.
    No, like I said, there is a specific list of settlements each faction is not supposed to exterminate. It is in EDCT, although I may be wrong. For instance, KH should not exterminate Chersonesos, Byzantium and Thermon, lest the FM obtains that trait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    No, like I said, there is a specific list of settlements each faction is not supposed to exterminate. It is in EDCT, although I may be wrong. For instance, KH should not exterminate Chersonesos, Byzantium and Thermon, lest the FM obtains that trait.
    I had it once when exterminating Chersonessos and Nikaia (allied states) with Pontos...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluvius Camillus View Post
    BTW, whats wrong with your member text under your name, AP, I only see a -.
    That means his account has been temporarily suspended. And no, the staff does not reveal why someone is suspended unles that member choses to make it public.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    No, like I said, there is a specific list of settlements each faction is not supposed to exterminate. It is in EDCT, although I may be wrong. For instance, KH should not exterminate Chersonesos, Byzantium and Thermon, lest the FM obtains that trait.
    Nevertheless, I imagine that many of a faction's starting settlements are on that list, if not all of them (KH, for example).

    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus
    I thought it was part of their kingdom, n'est-ce pas?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megas Methuselah View Post
    Does that rule also apply to us regular Orgahs as well, 'ole Lud?
    It is a rule for regular Orgah's.

    Oh, I didn't know you could speak French. Comment as-tu apprende le langue? Avec moi, j'ai pris l'immersion Francais dans ma ecole elementaire. Beaucoup de la langue n'est pas dans ma memoire ces jours, mais... c'est plus mieux que rien, n'est-ce pas?
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    Does this forum have a strict 'english only' rule? It seems we are from all over the world but everyone posts in english that I have seen.

    @Megas, good memory if you can still remember enough from primary school to write fairly cohesive sentences.

    As for exterminating early settlements, there shouldn't really be a need. If the town is particularly troublesome you could get away with the middle option to 'expel'. but distance to capital is never that much for your first few homeland regions.
    Exterminating rebelling cities later in game however is fully justified. They totally deserved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blxz View Post
    Does this forum have a strict 'english only' rule? It seems we are from all over the world but everyone posts in english that I have seen.

    @Megas, good memory if you can still remember enough from primary school to write fairly cohesive sentences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blxz View Post
    Does this forum have a strict 'english only' rule? It seems we are from all over the world but everyone posts in english that I have seen.
    It's not in the forum-rules, but we prefer people to post in English, if only so that all of our members can understand.
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    Well, poor English is appreciated in its own right. :-p

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    Quote Originally Posted by antisocialmunky View Post
    Well, poor English is appreciated in its own right. :-p

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=47080
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blxz View Post
    Does this forum have a strict 'english only' rule? It seems we are from all over the world but everyone posts in english that I have seen.
    If I may opine, we should communicate in English because this language is what people who participate here understand. Those who don't often use English, I suppose, would not care to post much here. For example, lately I participated in a forum where most posts were in German--I understand the barest smattering of German, so I seldom post there. I myself don't have English as my native tongue, but this is what we all over the world who post here have in common. Thus we continue to use this tongue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wumpus View Post
    If I may opine, we should communicate in English because this language is what people who participate here understand. Those who don't often use English, I suppose, would not care to post much here. For example, lately I participated in a forum where most posts were in German--I understand the barest smattering of German, so I seldom post there. I myself don't have English as my native tongue, but this is what we all over the world who post here have in common. Thus we continue to use this tongue here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilkku92 View Post
    Totta. Sitä paitsi täällä ei taida olla kovin monta henkilöä jotka osaavat puhua suomea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vilkku92 View Post
    Totta. Sitä paitsi täällä ei taida olla kovin monta henkilöä jotka osaavat puhua suomea.
    And even if there were, I've personally grown accustomed to using English as the de facto official language of the internet, and rather prefer it over using native languages. Hell, I quite often tend to chat with several of my (Finnish) friends in English when talking over the internet (and sometimes in the "real world", too).
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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    And even if there were, I've personally grown accustomed to using English as the de facto official language of the internet, and rather prefer it over using native languages. Hell, I quite often tend to chat with several of my (Finnish) friends in English when talking over the internet (and sometimes in the "real world", too).
    Ahhh das ist weird! Since this thread has gone OT, I post my 2cents: This and some german LARP/Reenactment forums are the only forums I write in and honestly, I had to accustom myself to write in english even though I#ve been told, that my oral english is quite good. Especially this mixed oral/written style was somehow unusual, when you've just learned english in school...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludens View Post
    But most don't. We've got profile pages and social groups for private conversations. This is the public forum.
    No private conversation, just a clarifying example on why we should write in english.

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