Shalom, Mr Ahmadinejad

**rvg** · 10-06-2009, 20:16

Don't know how credible this is tho.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...wish-past.html

Ironic to say the least.

**Vladimir** · 10-06-2009, 20:22

I deleted the email that debunked it. It's 'not quite' accurate, but I can't give you the exact article. Entertaining though. Maybe a planted story.

**Hooahguy** · 10-06-2009, 20:28

bah

**Aemilius Paulus** · 10-06-2009, 20:30

Bah, this sounds like all those times I hear "Jewish jokes" (read: anti-semitism done for humour) and the bloke telling the joke starts off saying "I am 1/x Jewish, so this is OK".

Who cares if he is right? Little comfort I receive from knowing that the world's second largest anti-Semite whose idea of a wet dream is a load of atomics falling on Israel is a Jew and thus not anti-Semitic. Call it flu or call it influenza - either one kills.

That said, I support Ahmedindzhad much more than I do anyone else in Iranian politics...

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

bah

Even such sincere and righteous hate as yours does not justify spam... Although I see little else you can say, still, I know your fondness for post count

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**Louis VI the Fat** · 10-06-2009, 20:44

The world is full of anti-Semites. They always fail. Except the ones who turn out to be part Jewish.

Even in this respect anti-Semites are beaten by the Jews.

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

That said, I support Ahmedindzhad much more than I do anyone else in Iranian politics...

W..why?

**Aemilius Paulus** · 10-06-2009, 21:36

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

W..why?

Got any better choices? Same reason why I support Putin. He is not perfect, but in comparison to others - he is a genius.

Ahmadinezhad is the right person for Iran. Well, almost. He really should tone down his war-hawk image, and his Israel-hating, but otherwise, he keeps Iran stable without turning it into a hellhole. There is some semblance of freedom in Iran, and at least it is not as strict as, for example, Saudi Arabia - whom we (as the US and the West) support.

Put Mousavi, and you will have chaos. For one,

the youth. Half of them, if not more, were just looking for an excuse to riot. This happens all the time. Nor does the youth have any understanding of real politics, or of what is possible in Iran, and what is not. Iran is a theocracy. You can slowly decrease the clerical influence, but this process is best executed slowly (unless for some reason you gain overwhelming popular support). My bet was that with Mousavi, little would change. If he tried to do any real reforms, that would be his end.

Too much instability. Iran is not ready for Mousavi. Try something centre-right - that by itself will be a miracle.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 10-06-2009, 22:08

It's not like he's the first anti-Semite that's got some Jewish blood in him...

**Hax** · 10-06-2009, 22:08

He's not anti-Semitic, he's anti-Zionist.

**Lemur** · 10-06-2009, 23:26

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

For one,

the youth. Half of them, if not more, were just looking for an excuse to riot.

Are you trolling or is this truly your belief?

**Kralizec** · 10-07-2009, 21:34

Hax, the Iranian constitution:
1) contradicts itself
2) is about as effective at protecting people as the toilet paper I wiped my backside with this morning

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

Got any better choices? Same reason why I support Putin. He is not perfect, but in comparison to others - he is a genius.

I see...you dismiss the Iranian protestors because they've got skewed views of political reality, yet support Putin because he cultivates an image of a strong leader.

That makes sense.

**CountArach** · 10-09-2009, 10:06

Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus

Got any better choices? Same reason why I support Putin. He is not perfect, but in comparison to others - he is a genius.

Ahmadinezhad is the right person for Iran. Well, almost. He really should tone down his war-hawk image, and his Israel-hating, but otherwise, he keeps Iran stable without turning it into a hellhole. There is some semblance of freedom in Iran, and at least it is not as strict as, for example, Saudi Arabia - whom we (as the US and the West) support.

Put Mousavi, and you will have chaos. For one,

the youth. Half of them, if not more, were just looking for an excuse to riot. This happens all the time. Nor does the youth have any understanding of real politics, or of what is possible in Iran, and what is not. Iran is a theocracy. You can slowly decrease the clerical influence, but this process is best executed slowly (unless for some reason you gain overwhelming popular support). My bet was that with Mousavi, little would change. If he tried to do any real reforms, that would be his end.

Too much instability. Iran is not ready for Mousavi. Try something centre-right - that by itself will be a miracle.

Any words I could say to you would get me banned.

**Prince Cobra** · 10-16-2009, 22:36

Originally Posted by rvg

Don't know how credible this is tho.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...wish-past.html

Ironic to say the least.

This only makes my skin crawl. The most dangerous are people who have inferiority complex and feeling shame from their roots. The greatest prosecutors of the Jews were of Jewish origins. People like Tomas de Torquemada, probably Hitler, some other Nazis; in a different aspect (not to the Jews but to the Christianity), this was valid the Janissaries (devshirme recruits) in the Ottoman Empire, the Ghulams in the Arabian countries: these all were people who were transferred to another religion/ideology and they became its strictest, even fanatical followers, far stricter than those, whose families have been devoted to it for centuries.

**Hooahguy** · 10-18-2009, 02:49

Originally Posted by Stephen Asen

probably Hitler, some other Nazis;

has been proved false, at least according to Professor D. Lipstadt.
(since her and my father are close friends, we have her over for lunch every now and then, a real treat)