Smoking and Obesity

[Aemilius Paulus]

Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.

[Strike For The South]

Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.

[Aemilius Paulus]

I have to assume that is you being in the late state of food poisoning...

You know, that unhealthy bluish tinge of the skin, saliva bubbling from the mouth, eyes closing for the last time, a slow scream emanating from the larynx...

[Tribesman]

Why on earth would anyone pass up the oppurtuinty to fry something?

That is a hard question.
I suppose there can be two possible answers
#1 they can cook
#2 they have taste
Don't get me wrong , there are time when frying is good , if for example I want a fried breakfast that normally involves 3 frying pans.
But for everyday food...no .....for good fish ...definately no...even for chicken ...hell no

[Strike For The South]

That is a hard question.
I suppose there can be two possible answers
#1 they can cook
#2 they have taste

You sir have never had a chicken fried steak with Mashed potatoes <----(you know you want it) and country gravy.

Oh and fried okra to. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Edit to his edit: I can live with that but you still need to try chicken fried steak. You will move here.

[Tribesman]

You sir have never had a chicken fried steak

Sorry Strike , If I buy a piece of steak I don't expect it to have to be beaten to **** just to make it edible.
Plus of course I expect steak to be cooked without the unneccesary application of additonal fat.

[Strike For The South]

Sorry Strike , If I buy a piece of steak I don't expect it to have to be beaten to **** just to make it edible.
Plus of course I expect steak to be cooked without the unneccesary application of additonal fat.

You don't use good cuts of meat for it. You use the tough stuff (cube steak) ! Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine and I'm not talking about crap fast food like Macdonalds. I mean honest to goodness food.

[Samurai Waki]

I have to assume that is you being in the late state of food poisoning...

You know, that unhealthy bluish tinge of the skin, saliva bubbling from the mouth, eyes closing for the last time, a slow scream emanating from the larynx...

I was going to say he looks like he's having a stroke. He's clearly lost control of the left side of his face.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that I do enjoy Chicken fried steak, With biscuits and gravy. Man's food. And of course the only time I partake of it, is when one of my pals convinces me I have to go hunting, when it's well below freezing outside, and I have to climb up the face of a mountain in knee deep snow, before the sun breaks over the horizon.

[Beskar]

Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.

Taken from Scotland, I am guessing.

[Tribesman]

Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine

Fair play to Texas, there ain't many places where a peasant recipe using a poor quality cut of meat can be described as "luxury cuisine"

[Strike For The South]

Fair play to Texas, there ain't many places where a peasant recipe using a poor quality cut of meat can be described as "luxury cuisine"

This is true.

[Sarmatian]

You don't use good cuts of meat for it. You use the tough stuff (cube steak) ! Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine and I'm not talking about crap fast food like Macdonalds. I mean honest to goodness food.

American "cuisine" is the second worst cuisine in the entire world. McDonalds isn't crap food. From something to be considered crap food, it's got to be food in the first place. Mcdonalds is garbage.

[Rhyfelwyr]

Taken from Scotland, I am guessing.

Spot on, we are the heart attack capital of Europe for a reason.

Couple of points... fast food isn't particularly cheap, you could get good produce out of the local butcher for less in most cases. However, I think the main reason many people have a lot of fast food is simply because of the time issue. I know that in my case, I was getting KFC/McDonalds/local chippie at least every second night for long periods throughout the school year, due to the fact that both my parents would be working.

I'm also not sure that a bad diet = obesity. I was always skinny, although I had notoriously generally crappy health. I'm not the only person I've known like this either, in fact probably most people who ate a lot of junk food never really got obese. My brother got pretty fat though, so I'm not even sure how much genetics has got to do with it.

[Azathoth]

But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?

And I remembered some more food that I used to eat - my grandma used to make me schniztel, chicken broth, fish, mashed potatoes, fried potatoes, and gretchki (I don't know what those are in English). I actually began eating TV dinners as a part of the gradual phasing out of my grandmother's cooking. They're very tasty though.

[Aemilius Paulus]

But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?

Yes, but unlikely. Far greater danger is to have one's arteries clogged, which is very, very much possible with a slim, yet unhealthy eater.

gretchki

Well, knowing your heritage, in Russia and Ukraine that would be buckwheat, which is simply cannot ever have enough of.

[SwordsMaster]

My principal issue with the whole "smoking/overeating" debate is: Don't start what you can't finish. It's a willpower issue. And I honestly don't see how technology is ever going to give anyone more willpower.

Regardless of how tasty texan 8000cal deep fried steak with cheese and snickers is, I'm not going to have one every day. And if you're idiot enough to do that, well, you're like that guy who was masturbating by the working chainsaw.

The emphasis shouldn't be on technology to solve people's problems, but on letting people know that they will really die in 10 years if they continue eating/smoking at the current rate. It's not that difficult to eat only when you're hungry, and start with a soup or a salad.

It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?

Don't get me wrong, I think that if food has transfats, or asbestos, or enriched polonium, it should say so clearly on the label, but government imposing extra tax? Why is the government responsible for our own idiocy? Are we really capable of electing that government if we can't pick foods that are good for us?

I personally find it all a bit silly. Entire nations worried because their populations lack willpower. What do people expect? Not to lose weight themselves but get a politician to force someone to make them do it?

Really? Is that where we've gone?

[Aemilius Paulus]

It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?

I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.

[SwordsMaster]

I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.

Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.

Ahh, I see

[A Very Super Market]

Words

Really? Is that where we've gone?

Yes, and it's evident in most aspects of modern life.

[Caius]

Besides, eating so much salt will cause other illnesses.

Hypertension is your enemy and rises with big ammounts of salt in foods.

[Azathoth]

That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.

??

Narcotics are opiates. Drugs like morphine, heroin, codeine, etc. are considered to be narcotics. Nicotine is a stimulant.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.

Now that we have established that in terms of culinary prowess the Southern United States is the most advanced area of the world, can we move to the next item on the agenda?