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Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus:
Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
I have to assume that is you being in the late state of food poisoning...You know, that unhealthy bluish tinge of the skin, saliva bubbling from the mouth, eyes closing for the last time, a slow scream emanating from the larynx...
Originally Posted by :
Why on earth would anyone pass up the oppurtuinty to fry something?
That is a hard question.Why on earth would anyone pass up the oppurtuinty to fry something?
I suppose there can be two possible answers
#1 they can cook
#2 they have taste
Don't get me wrong , there are time when frying is good , if for example I want a fried breakfast that normally involves 3 frying pans.
But for everyday food...no .....for good fish ...definately no...even for chicken ...hell no
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
That is a hard question.
I suppose there can be two possible answers
#1 they can cook
#2 they have taste
That is a hard question.
I suppose there can be two possible answers
#1 they can cook
#2 they have taste
You sir have never had a chicken fried steak with Mashed potatoes <----(you know you want it) and country gravy.
Oh and fried okra to. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Edit to his edit: I can live with that but you still need to try chicken fried steak. You will move here.
Originally Posted by :
You sir have never had a chicken fried steak
Sorry Strike , If I buy a piece of steak I don't expect it to have to be beaten to **** just to make it edible. You sir have never had a chicken fried steak
Plus of course I expect steak to be cooked without the unneccesary application of additonal fat.
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
Sorry Strike , If I buy a piece of steak I don't expect it to have to be beaten to **** just to make it edible.
Plus of course I expect steak to be cooked without the unneccesary application of additonal fat.
You don't use good cuts of meat for it. You use the tough stuff (cube steak) ! Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine and I'm not talking about crap fast food like Macdonalds. I mean honest to goodness food.Sorry Strike , If I buy a piece of steak I don't expect it to have to be beaten to **** just to make it edible.
Plus of course I expect steak to be cooked without the unneccesary application of additonal fat.
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus:
I have to assume that is you being in the late state of food poisoning...
You know, that unhealthy bluish tinge of the skin, saliva bubbling from the mouth, eyes closing for the last time, a slow scream emanating from the larynx...
I was going to say he looks like he's having a stroke. He's clearly lost control of the left side of his face.I have to assume that is you being in the late state of food poisoning...
You know, that unhealthy bluish tinge of the skin, saliva bubbling from the mouth, eyes closing for the last time, a slow scream emanating from the larynx...
I'm gonna go out on a limb here, and say that I do enjoy Chicken fried steak, With biscuits and gravy. Man's food. And of course the only time I partake of it, is when one of my pals convinces me I have to go hunting, when it's well below freezing outside, and I have to climb up the face of a mountain in knee deep snow, before the sun breaks over the horizon.
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus:
Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
Taken from Scotland, I am guessing.Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
Originally Posted by :
Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine
Fair play to Texas, there ain't many places where a peasant recipe using a poor quality cut of meat can be described as "luxury cuisine"Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine
Originally Posted by Tribesman:
Fair play to Texas, there ain't many places where a peasant recipe using a poor quality cut of meat can be described as "luxury cuisine"
This is true.Fair play to Texas, there ain't many places where a peasant recipe using a poor quality cut of meat can be described as "luxury cuisine"
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
You don't use good cuts of meat for it. You use the tough stuff (cube steak) ! Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine and I'm not talking about crap fast food like Macdonalds. I mean honest to goodness food.
American "cuisine" is the second worst cuisine in the entire world. McDonalds isn't crap food. From something to be considered crap food, it's got to be food in the first place. Mcdonalds is garbage.You don't use good cuts of meat for it. You use the tough stuff (cube steak) ! Everytime I log on here I am reminded that our European friends don't have the luxury of American cusine and I'm not talking about crap fast food like Macdonalds. I mean honest to goodness food.
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Taken from Scotland, I am guessing.
Spot on, we are the heart attack capital of Europe for a reason. Taken from Scotland, I am guessing.
Couple of points... fast food isn't particularly cheap, you could get good produce out of the local butcher for less in most cases. However, I think the main reason many people have a lot of fast food is simply because of the time issue. I know that in my case, I was getting KFC/McDonalds/local chippie at least every second night for long periods throughout the school year, due to the fact that both my parents would be working.
I'm also not sure that a bad diet = obesity. I was always skinny, although I had notoriously generally crappy health. I'm not the only person I've known like this either, in fact probably most people who ate a lot of junk food never really got obese. My brother got pretty fat though, so I'm not even sure how much genetics has got to do with it.
But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?
And I remembered some more food that I used to eat - my grandma used to make me schniztel, chicken broth, fish, mashed potatoes, fried potatoes, and gretchki (I don't know what those are in English). I actually began eating TV dinners as a part of the gradual phasing out of my grandmother's cooking. They're very tasty though.
And I remembered some more food that I used to eat - my grandma used to make me schniztel, chicken broth, fish, mashed potatoes, fried potatoes, and gretchki (I don't know what those are in English). I actually began eating TV dinners as a part of the gradual phasing out of my grandmother's cooking. They're very tasty though.
Originally Posted by Azathoth:
But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?
Yes, but unlikely. Far greater danger is to have one's arteries clogged, which is very, very much possible with a slim, yet unhealthy eater. But can't a "skinny" person actually have a lot of internal fat around the organs?
Originally Posted by Azathoth:
gretchki
Well, knowing your heritage, in Russia and Ukraine that would be buckwheat, which is simply cannot ever have enough of.gretchki
My principal issue with the whole "smoking/overeating" debate is: Don't start what you can't finish. It's a willpower issue. And I honestly don't see how technology is ever going to give anyone more willpower.
Regardless of how tasty texan 8000cal deep fried steak with cheese and snickers is, I'm not going to have one every day. And if you're idiot enough to do that, well, you're like that guy who was masturbating by the working chainsaw.
The emphasis shouldn't be on technology to solve people's problems, but on letting people know that they will really die in 10 years if they continue eating/smoking at the current rate. It's not that difficult to eat only when you're hungry, and start with a soup or a salad.
It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?
Don't get me wrong, I think that if food has transfats, or asbestos, or enriched polonium, it should say so clearly on the label, but government imposing extra tax? Why is the government responsible for our own idiocy? Are we really capable of electing that government if we can't pick foods that are good for us?
I personally find it all a bit silly. Entire nations worried because their populations lack willpower. What do people expect? Not to lose weight themselves but get a politician to force someone to make them do it?
Really? Is that where we've gone?
Regardless of how tasty texan 8000cal deep fried steak with cheese and snickers is, I'm not going to have one every day. And if you're idiot enough to do that, well, you're like that guy who was masturbating by the working chainsaw.
The emphasis shouldn't be on technology to solve people's problems, but on letting people know that they will really die in 10 years if they continue eating/smoking at the current rate. It's not that difficult to eat only when you're hungry, and start with a soup or a salad.
It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?
Don't get me wrong, I think that if food has transfats, or asbestos, or enriched polonium, it should say so clearly on the label, but government imposing extra tax? Why is the government responsible for our own idiocy? Are we really capable of electing that government if we can't pick foods that are good for us?
I personally find it all a bit silly. Entire nations worried because their populations lack willpower. What do people expect? Not to lose weight themselves but get a politician to force someone to make them do it?
Really? Is that where we've gone?
Originally Posted by SwordsMaster:
It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?
I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.It also isn't so difficult to quit smoking. Considering most people do it just to do something with their hands. Are people really so uncomfortable around their hands?
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus:
I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.
Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.I would not rush to that conclusion unless I was a smoker myself... Regardless of the start, in the end, the result is uniform: nicotine addiction. That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.
Originally Posted by SwordsMaster:
Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.
Ahh, I see Well, I had smoked for 2 years before quitting, my granddad had smoked for 45 before quitting for 8. People believe what tv tells them about how difficult it is, and go buy nicorettes when they just don't want to quit badly enough to actually quit.
Originally Posted by SwordsMaster:
Words
Really? Is that where we've gone?
Yes, and it's evident in most aspects of modern life.Words
Really? Is that where we've gone?
Originally Posted by :
Besides, eating so much salt will cause other illnesses.
Hypertension is your enemy and rises with big ammounts of salt in foods.Besides, eating so much salt will cause other illnesses.
Originally Posted by :
That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.
??That is the difficulty in quitting, as nicotine is a narcotic.
Narcotics are opiates. Drugs like morphine, heroin, codeine, etc. are considered to be narcotics. Nicotine is a stimulant.
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus:
Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
Now that we have established that in terms of culinary prowess the Southern United States is the most advanced area of the world, can we move to the next item on the agenda?Meh, here in the Southern US battered and fried candy bars (Snickers, Milky Way, Twix) are quite common. While fried chicken with fried pickles with fried apple pie and fried ice cream for dessert, washed down with fried coke being a very much possible dish combination. In fact, fried apple pie and fried pickles are quite an old dish.
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