Yes, the new content and patch has got me playing ETW again, 18 52.94%

No, I cant get excited about ETW, the horse has bolted 16 47.06%

invalidopcode and others-

I think that for some people, the case might just be that ETW is the kind of genre that some people are into. The time period involved many of the european factions being extremely similar, so if they want to keep a general historical basis (which many people begin to rant and rave if they step out of line), they make the factions fairly similar. Some factions may have larger cavalry, some may have stronger melee stats. CA isn't going to add dozens of new units like some of the mods, but they try to make the factions somewhat unique.

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Yes I understand the historical arguments but this is first and foremost a game and as a game it needs to be entertaining not a documentary. I dont think the keeping things historical holds here, there are plenty of things completely unhistorical in the game, the sameness of the factions feels more like a short cut to me "leave it to the modders" attitude from CA.

The problem then becomes how well are mods and modding supported, and so far, IMO its not that great. The need to sell DLC has negatively impacted on modding IMO and where are the modding tools, and further why is it every time there is an update, I see a string of posts of people who cant run the game anymore because they had mods installed. This doesnt inspire me with confidence to 'try a mod', and its all because of steam, and the game perhaps not supporting mods as well as it could. But Im not a modder so I comment from the outside.

Lets hear from a modder - How well is ETW stacking up as far as moddability compared to previous titles and other games?

I look forward to playing the game again with some mods, but mods are still bound somewhat by limitations of the vanilla engine.

It really feels like Ive been playing one campaign since I got the game, against a retarded opponent with endless stacks of identical units and infinite identical provinces to take. The campaign map is in serious need of variety, perhaps it needs random strategic resources or provincial units, and factions have an identity crisis, even if they made the armies have default behaviours on the battle field for each nation, or national characteristics - yes its gamey - but its a lot more fun than fighting the same guy endlessly over and again.

I remember posting a thread about the Hungarian death trap during MTW because of the battlemap position you would get when defending Hungary (at the bottom of the hill) taking the province became a real army destroyer. Flavour! wheres the flavour? And where have the EPIC battles gone? This game no longer delivers EPIC battles which had significance to how your Campaign developed. ETW needs to get these battles back becasue a game where your bored before youve finished a single campaign is not going to have people buying the next title. It will be like - "empires yeh played that for a couple of weeks and got bored fighting the same battle over again, this next one looks like the same thing, been there done that."

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i haven't played since 1.2.

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