tips

[jedi121212]

Hey I am new here. I have played both RTW and MTW 2 and liked them. I am now playing MTW and Shogun and was wondering if you guys could give me any battle tips. I find the controls a little difficult. BTW Shogun and MTW are awesome.

[gollum]

Hello jedi121212, and welcome to the org;
the controls are indeed harder to get use to, but actually more efficient once you get use to them imho.

Generally speaking STW/MTW have a slower pace and less overpowered units - the cavalry for example is not the all conquering juggernaut as in RTW/M2. You need to use them for their tactical strength that is speed, charge and the ability to cover large distances faster without getting too tired.
Remember that in STW units cannot be ordered out of a melee once engaged while in MTW they can.

Similarly, missiles are less effective (read overpowered) than in RTW but more effective than M2. Mounted missiles are notably different in that they dont shoot on the hoof; this sounds like a gamebreaker and unrealistic, however you may eventually find out that it is actually not; rather its very good for the gameplay as it takes some practice and skill to play with them unlike RTW/M2 that mounted missiles are king without requiring any skill whatsoever.

As for tips, start by taking a look in the complete TW unit guide (https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=31444); its a good piece of work for begginer to intermediate level. It explains the basic unit types and their basic functions as well as a unit per unit analysis. Bear in mind that the guide is not exhaustive or infallible by any means; rather its a very good introduction for the uninitiated.

Dont hesitate to post any further questions that you have here and the main hall and have fun! These are really good games.

[jedi121212]

thanks dude. I kinda new a little of that but not a lot. Right now I have a English and a Shimazu campaign going and am doing ok I guess. With the English I have the British isles, France, and north of the danes. Shimazu I have Kyoshu.

[gollum]

It seems the English campaign is going well. Dont neglect to use the wonderful Billmen (level3 Spearmaker iirc) and Longbows (level3 bowyer iirc), both units are pure gold for their class and money. Billmen in particular can take on knights, heavy cavalry and heavy infantry by virtue of their halberds, good stats and good morale, while they are speedy (unlike the vanilla halberdier that is slow and has low morale or the Chivalric Foot Knights that are too slow). The only thing they are not entirely suited for is receiving cavalry charges - set them up in hold formation, hold position to receive a charge. After the first few seconds draw them in a 3rank line and return them to engage at will while taking them out of hold position; order single click attack and watch the slaughter.

As the Shimazu i advise either a quick Blitz until you reach Kyoto (yamashiro) or Going Christian if you turtle in Kyushu (to make up for the poor territory with the cathedral income).

Above all have fun.

[jedi121212]

Yeah I am trying to get the Billman and longbowman. I have around 3 or 4 full stacks defending and i am bringing in the money around 3000 each turn. As for the Shimazu Yeah I turned christian. I find the mori keep on sending me alliances constantly. I have around 3 full stacks.

[gollum]

Nice.
Remember also when you get Chivalric Knights that you can try to dismount them before open battle. They are quite a good unit in that format too.

This can be done with right clicking the unit and choose "dismount" from the list of options during the deployment phase.

As for the Mori, you can keep the alliances as they give you 250 koku each every harvest if you are playing with the Mongol Invasion/Warlord edition.

[jedi121212]

Nice I did not know that. I will have to accept the alliance. You have been a big help.

[gollum]

happy to help

Alliances also may grant you part or the whole of a leaderless faction's territory ie once an allied faction loses its daimyo and has no heirs; part or all of their territories may join you. Obviously if they have also other allies you might get part of the land or even none. In this way you may even consider doing "strategic" assassinations of the family members of allied factions (using ninja/geishas). This works particularly well if they are afar and you share no border and so they can't invade in retalliation, breaking thus the alliance.

[jedi121212]

Yeah but I suck at using assassins. I am having trouble in my English campaign I have the french, silcilians, and italians fighting me. I would post it on here but I dont know how.

[gollum]

IIRC you can take screenshots with F2; as for how to post them up here i would pm Asai Nagamasa or TosaInu - i've done it once in the past IIRC but its been a while now.

I think that you can either host the picture in some external such service like photo bucket and then link or directly use the org in house host service - i am not entirely sure though.

Asai or TosaInu would let you know though swiftly.

To discuss your English campaign we can move in the main hall
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/forumdisplay.php?f=20

[jedi121212]

ok.

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[ReluctantSamurai]

Alliances also may grant you part or the whole of a leaderless faction's territory ie once an allied faction loses its daimyo and has no heirs; part or all of their territories may join you.

Don't put too much faith in this, though I've been dissed many times by the AI when it's handing out territories from a vanquished ally.....more often than not, all or most of my ally's lands were given to another of their allies instead of me, even though I was first to make the alliance and even had common borders

[jedi121212]

Yeah I know that.

[DEB8]

Don't put too much faith in this, though I've been dissed many times by the AI when it's handing out territories from a vanquished ally.....more often than not, all or most of my ally's lands were given to another of their allies instead of me, even though I was first to make the alliance and even had common borders

Hey, me too!! It sucks!