President O'Bama Nobel Laureate...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Many security experts believe that Climate Change poses the greatest threat to international security. As resources dwindle, crops fail, etc, etc then war is more likely to become a real threat. Given that the Nobel committee believes in man-made climate change (Whether it is real or not is not what is at issue here, so don't derail the thread) then it makes sense that raising awareness and organising to do something about it deserves recognition.

I remember that. While I have my concerns regarding the science behind global warming and humanity's being the key element of it, once you accept that point (and many, maybe most do) the logic behind last year's award did make sense.


If nuclear disarmament is the committee's hope, they're really in wolkenkukkuksheim [sp?]. The inevitable trend is -- and by the logic of self preservation MUST be -- towards an expansion of the number of nation-states with nuclear arms.

Turnig swords into ploughshares is a noble (nobel?) purpose and all that, but how often has history witnessed such?

[rory_20_uk]

Although the concepts might be nice, he's not managed to achieve much. Yes, it's early in his first term so no, he's not really had the time. Perhaps come the next prize he'd have solid evidence to deserve it, but as yet no.

[Husar]

wolkenkukkuksheim [sp?].

Wolkenkuckucksheim. (I had to look up the exact spelling of Kuckuck myself )

One thing I do not really understand is how people see the continuation of Afghanistan as a war effort?
IMO if we leave, the Taliban will return and kill all the people who tried to make Afghanistan more modern/western, slaughter the opposition and enslave the people again, it will be quiet and out of the news but hardly peaceful, which is why I prefer the continuation of the mission, that way at least the worse people get killed and not the women who establish schools for girls.

[HoreTore]

One thing I do not really understand is how people see the continuation of Afghanistan as a war effort?
IMO if we leave, the Taliban will return and kill all the people who tried to make Afghanistan more modern/western, slaughter the opposition and enslave the people again, it will be quiet and out of the news but hardly peaceful, which is why I prefer the continuation of the mission, that way at least the worse people get killed and not the women who establish schools for girls.

Irrelevant, a war is still a war. Trying to solve it through diplomacy is what will get you the peace prize. Remember that Nobel's aim was to dismantle every single standing army in the world.

[Husar]

Irrelevant, a war is still a war. Trying to solve it through diplomacy is what will get you the peace prize. Remember that Nobel's aim was to dismantle every single standing army in the world.

So you think if we talk to the taliban they won't slaughter women who establish schools for girls or was it that what you refer to as irrelevant?

[HoreTore]

So you think if we talk to the taliban they won't slaughter women who establish schools for girls or was it that what you refer to as irrelevant?

Whether you like it or not, war is to opposite to peace. Violence is the opposite of non-violence.

Only those in the latter category are eligible for the peace prize.

[Ice]

Whether you like it or not, war is to opposite to peace. Violence is the opposite of non-violence.

Only those in the latter category are eligible for the peace prize.

I'd disagree. Violence can certainly bring a long lasting peace much more than dialogue can in certain situations. I would think Europe and WWII would be a good example of this.

[HoreTore]

I'd disagree. Violence can certainly bring a long lasting peace much more than dialogue can in certain situations. I would think Europe and WWII would be a good example of this.

If you disagree, you're free to make your own prize

It's not a discussion about what is "right" or "wrong", it's a discussion of what Alfred Nobel intended.

[Subotan]

One thing I do not really understand is how people see the continuation of Afghanistan as a war effort?
IMO if we leave, the Taliban will return and kill all the people who tried to make Afghanistan more modern/western, slaughter the opposition and enslave the people again, it will be quiet and out of the news but hardly peaceful, which is why I prefer the continuation of the mission, that way at least the worse people get killed and not the women who establish schools for girls.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Just when the hilarious joke of the 2009 election was wearing off and we feared being left with a horrible void of despair at electing a big ball of hype - the joke continues! I love it.

As long as Euroweenies are there to cheer us up by giving us awards commemorating how dumb we are by showing how much dumber they are, the situation will never seem as bad as we know it is.

[KukriKhan]

One point Four million Bucks ($425K, after taxes). Any bets on what Mr. O will do with the prize money?

Charity? Cigarettes? Rose Garden Beer? Pay down the National Debt?