actions to fight steam...

**peacemaker** · 10-11-2009, 07:25

Wait...better enforced DRM is a problem?

you lost me there

I will agree partially on the which patch you want to download part. However with this game, I would say 1.5 is better than 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3, and 1.4 so It's not a big deal. If patch 1.6 completely destroyed the game, I would agree that it becomes a problem

**pevergreen** · 10-11-2009, 07:43

Automatic patching, is overall a good thing.

It screws up mods, yes, but it puts everyone on the same page.

The steam platform is currently the best DRM measure. Yes it can be circumvented, but it is not widespread.

I do not see what you seek to gain by attempting to get total war off steam. We would move back to secuROM, which may delve into lower rings. The thing is terrible. CA/SEGA don't want it as it loses sales and is not as effective.

On top of that, gone are the terrible lobby days of R:TW and M2:TW, we have steam as an MP platform.

Steam has moved the game forward.

If you install M2TW:Kingdoms, you are made to have secuROM. You have no choice.

Steam is a platform, it is not DRM.

I had steam years and years ago, and I disliked it. But it has changed since then. Steam and Impulse are the best platforms out there for what we need, and what developers and distributors need.

**Durallan** · 10-11-2009, 09:55

steam isn't too bad it would just mean anyone who didn't have an internet connection, or a reliable one couldn't play the game, but there aren't enough of those people around for any game developer to care, unfortunately.

**green jacket** · 10-11-2009, 12:20

sadly not every1 likes every patch out there :/ i would prefer the option to download a patch if i "wanted" and the drm thing is stupid tbh, give companys a false sense of security but its not different than secuROM it just mean the pirates need the internet...... which they all do these days.

my internet is not always on, it switchs off so my little bro isnt on it at stupid times ie when i get back from work lol and thats prob why i find it so annoying i need steam online to log on

the main point steam doesnt "always" work, i do admit i think how it works with the multiplayer is better than the days of med2 and rome but its just how un-damn reliable it is!

**pevergreen** · 10-11-2009, 12:51

In what sense?

Steam is harder to crack than secuROM, and is done less often.

Steam has offline mode. Tis a godsend.

**antisocialmunky** · 10-11-2009, 13:42

I would not claim that Steam is cracked any less. :)

**Beskar** · 10-11-2009, 22:35

The cracks don't work with Steam multiplayer, and have to use these methods which involve bending over backwards to stick your head where the sun does not shine.