No more global warming?

[InsaneApache]

The problem the alarmists have is credibility. More than once or twice the warmists have been found, well quite frankly, making things up.

Little lads and wolves spring to mind.

[Fragony]

Subotan my curiosity wins over, the type of curiosity that makes people slow down when they see an accident. Please keep posting.

[Subotan]

The problem the alarmists have is credibility. More than once or twice the warmists have been found, well quite frankly, making things up.

Little lads and wolves spring to mind.

Many many many more times have climate change deniers been found making stuff up.

One, random example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...climate-change

Little lads and wolves spring to mind.

I've always thought of Deniers as having a "Three Wise Monkeys" attitude

Subotan my curiosity wins over, the type of curiosity that makes people slow down when they see an accident. Please keep posting.

So you don't have any evidence? How very expected.

[Fragony]

Many many many more times have climate change deniers been found making stuff up.

One, random example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...climate-change


I've always thought of Deniers as having a "Three Wise Monkeys" attitude


So you don't have any evidence? How very expected.

how about the earth not warming up. It really doesn't, and don't get any stupid ideas and don't say expected when you really mean agreement. Muslims aren't dying either but I can hold them back not trhat much longer. Or more general terms, you annoy me.

[InsaneApache]

I actually object to being called a denier, what with all those connotations with the holocaust. As I said previously in this thread, I started out believing that there was indeed global warming and that it was, in the main, caused by mankind. I started getting suspicious about four or five years ago and finally decided that I'd been a mug and lied to with Manns dicredited hockey stick and latterly my suspicions were confirmed by Phil 'hide the decline' Jones and the shower over at the UEA.

If they want to get me and my kind back on board then it's simple. Stop manipulating data, in other words, stop bloody well lying.

[Fragony]

Why did you fall for it in the first place, it keeps amazing me. Calling non-lemmings deniers isn't an accident language is a powerful tool. Holocaust t t t

[Banquo's Ghost]

This is a topic that provokes emotional responses, but I would be grateful if we returned to a more civil debate without the snide remarks, generalisations and petty insults now beginning to fly about.

More light, less heat, one might say.

Thank you kindly.

[Fragony]

Why in green, et tu BG, et tu?(!)

[InsaneApache]

Why did you fall for it in the first place, it keeps amazing me. Calling non-lemmings deniers isn't an accident language is a powerful tool. Holocaust t t t

I was just a callow youth with limited experience of the world and thought I knew it all. Now I know how ignorant I am.

[InsaneApache]

Remember all those isalnds that are being swamped because of global warming? Remember the government of one of the said island holding a cabinet meeting underwater wearing scuba gear? Well the way things are going, they will need oxygen masks and crampons.*

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

A new geological study has shown that many low-lying Pacific islands are growing, not sinking.

The islands of Tuvalu, Kiribati and the Federated States of Micronesia are among those which have grown, because of coral debris and sediment.

The study, published in the magazine the New Scientist, predicts that the islands will still be there in 100 years' time.

However it is still unsure whether many of them will be inhabitable.

In recent times, the inhabitants of many low-lying Pacific islands have come to fear their homelands being wiped off the map because of rising sea levels.

But this study of 27 islands over the last 60 years suggests that most have remained stable, while some have actually grown.

Using historical photographs and satellite imaging, the geologists found that 80% of the islands had either remained the same or got larger - in some cases, dramatically so.

They say it is due to the build-up of coral debris and sediment, and to land reclamation.

Associate Professor Paul Kench of Auckland University, who took part in the study, says the islands are not in immediate danger of extinction.

"That rather gloomy prognosis for these nations is incorrect," he said.

"We have now got the evidence to suggest that the physical foundation of these countries will still be there in 100 years, so they perhaps do not need to flee their country."

But although these islands might not be submerged under the waves in the short-term, it does not mean they will be inhabitable in the long-term, and the scientists believe further rises in sea levels pose a significant danger to the livelihoods of people living in Tuvalu, Kiribati and the Federated States of Micronesia.

One scientist in Kiribati said that people should not be lulled into thinking that inundation and coastal erosion were not a major threat.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...c/10222679.stm

This bit really made me chuckle.

But although these islands might not be submerged under the waves in the short-term, it does not mean they will be inhabitable in the long-term, and the scientists believe further rises in sea levels pose a significant danger to the livelihoods of people living in Tuvalu, Kiribati and the Federated States of Micronesia.

One scientist in Kiribati said that people should not be lulled into thinking that inundation and coastal erosion were not a major threat.

Err no dumbo. There hasn't been significant sea level rises. This what I was talking about. Obfuscation, mendacity and duplicity.

*well if the alamists can make ridiculous assertions, then so can I.