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    Default Re: We can rule the world and the Gameroom is the key to that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost View Post
    Me too. Though I think Cronos refers to psychohistory.

    However, it sounds a little like the ideas behind the Wisdom of Crowds millarkey. Which is bunk because of Chaos Theory.
    Does understanding chaos therory render it invalid
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    There is a reason no serious psychologist or sociologist dabbles much in this, or more accurately, why there are no serious centres of higher education devoted to it. As much as I esteem Asimov and appreciate his works, psychohistory is well..., I think we all know what it is. I would not say pseudoscience, given the reason why Asimov created the concept of it, but it is certainly not real science.

    The useful and agreed-upon concepts of psychohistory are a part of sociology. The other parts are junk science, or so goes the general scientific consensus. Particularly amusing, I find, is its interpretation of history and societies based on the methods of child-rearing.

    Often times, when reading their awkward, bumbling, and grotesquely generalising methods of data collection and organisation, reminded of creationism for some reason... The general atmosphere is the same, in my amateur judgement, in the sense that the result is equally comical. Except that by nature, sociology is a greatly less precise science, always floating barely above pseudoscience given the farcical assumptions that cannot be accurately propped up by empirical data or the scientific method it is do fond of employing.

    The chief problem of psychohistory, in my opinion, even if the indomitable barriers of the impossibility of reliable data collection are at last surmounted (inconceivable), then the results would prove to be overwhelming, presenting a stupendously low deviation, as all will inevitably average out to the point of indistinctness. There is a reason why sociologists do their best to refrain from wholescale analysis of an entire nation.

    That and the Chaos Hypothesis of course , which is an even “chiefer” barrier. The factors are infinite and humans appear to display a trend of flaunting randomness nowadays, which will further complicate the picture. Trivial events, trivial pieces of misderived data can complicate the flow of history, and ugh, my cognitive functions are already overloading from the torrent of pertinent, yet madly varied factors... Enough of this, such calculations are a fantasy…

    I know how simple it is to become caught up in the lectures about such fascinating material, believe me, I have been there, and done that, but the best part about those “revelations”, or at least for me, was stopping to play the Devil’s Advocate in an internal debate within oneself, deducing why they would not work. Once again, there is usually a solid rationale for that . That said, this is valuable intellectual experience, and by no means should it be circumvented for varying reasons.
    Last edited by Aemilius Paulus; 10-12-2009 at 23:57.

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