Broken Crescent 2.02 Hotseat - Lords of the East

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 10-18-2009, 14:26

Originally Posted by Quirl al-Mustafa Mubarak

Again, delete all previous instances of the Broken Crescent game before you reinstall, including those in virtual store. The virtual store files are located in username/appdata/local/virtualstore/program files/sega/Medieval II Total War

I can't even find the virtual stores.

However, I think it may be the problem. My regular MTW say 1.2 when I start it up, but when I try and install 1.3 then it says 1.3 is already installed.

but I don't have a clue where the virtual files could be. (I did not install MTW in to program files BTW)

**Merlox** · 10-18-2009, 15:46

Alright, well... Here is the problem.

Your install of 1.03 did not install correctly there for you have corrupted files, way to fix this, fully un-install the game, and patch it up

**Merlox** · 10-18-2009, 16:40

Hey guys, the twcenter is adopting a new rule regarding seige weapons and the latest BC2.02

Apparently Balistias can take over any settlement. so any game that is limiting spies to not being able to take settlements, we also have these rules.

Balistias can only take out forts
Catapults can only take wood grade settlements (Small towns, large towns, wooden castles)
Trebs can take out any thing.

Reason why we are starting to do this is because balistias are very easy to produce, and to think about it, are slow, 100% spies. If we limited spies so that we can not take settlements, we should do the same with balistias.

**Cultured Drizzt fan** · 10-18-2009, 16:43

Perhaps someone should sub my turn. I do not think I have the time to go through the whole reinstall process today or tomorrow. I can find time for it, but not soon.

Just want to keep things moving.

If Ramses could that would be fine. But whoever is up to it I could PM you my instructions.

**Quirl** · 10-18-2009, 17:04

I'll sub your turn for you, Cultured. PM me your instructions and I'll do it today.

**Quirl** · 10-18-2009, 21:28

Originally Posted by Merlox

Hey guys, the twcenter is adopting a new rule regarding seige weapons and the latest BC2.02

Apparently Balistias can take over any settlement. so any game that is limiting spies to not being able to take settlements, we also have these rules.

Balistias can only take out forts
Catapults can only take wood grade settlements (Small towns, large towns, wooden castles)
Trebs can take out any thing.

Reason why we are starting to do this is because balistias are very easy to produce, and to think about it, are slow, 100% spies. If we limited spies so that we can not take settlements, we should do the same with balistias.

I wasn't aware that they had changed ballistas back into siege engines in 2.02. That is a problem.

I'm not sure how I feel about catapults only being able to take out wooden settlements, though. If that were the case, I think, too many people would just ignore the siege equipment all together, because it would be just too much of a pain to have to produce trebuchets for certain towns. In my opinion, siege equipment is one of the worst parts about M2TW-- they are not very historically accurate, they offer very little variety, siege buildings take too long to construct, and they bog down movement in the campaign map to such a ridiculous extent.

Here's what I'd like to suggest:

Balistas can only take out forts.
Catapults can only take out those settlements without ballista towers.
Trebuchets are required for settlements with ballista towers.

This way, catapults are still important, but players seeking to fortify their cities will actually have to put time and resources into doing so by constructing ballista towers. In this scheme, those stupid ballista towers will actually have a purpose, too.

Sound good?

And also, KOJ is up!

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?wx5wzanlmxz

**phonicsmonkey** · 10-18-2009, 23:24

Originally Posted by Quirl al-Mustafa Mubarak

Here's what I'd like to suggest:

Balistas can only take out forts.
Catapults can only take out those settlements without ballista towers.
Trebuchets are required for settlements with ballista towers.Sound good?

I'm fine with that. Also fine with playing the game as it comes.

A few things that make siege engines less of a problem than spies are:
- They are more difficult to spam, as they are more expensive and the buildings you need to create them are higher level.
- They are slow moving, so they can't cover vast distances in a single turn.
- They are visible on the campaign map, meaning if you are smart you have a chance of stopping them from reaching your cities.

They are certainly unrealistic in the way the game allows them to be used, but they feel more 'fair' to me than spies for these reasons. At least you know where you stand with them.

**phonicsmonkey** · 10-19-2009, 09:48

ok, Ayyubids are up!

**Quirl** · 10-20-2009, 18:52

Abbasids, I choose you!

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ymvrzyodd1z

Also, please be aware of some slight changes in the first post.