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True dat. There is, however a road market in the Dzankoi region that will sell you as much as you like, packaged right before your eyes, and quite reasonable prices. However it is sometimes of "second freshness" as the russians used to say. So watch out.
And definitely not that expensive. Used to buy about 300g for about 100 USD in a relatively recent past.
And definitely not that expensive. Used to buy about 300g for about 100 USD in a relatively recent past.
I'm with the fast food thingy as well. Notable mentions to KFC and Macs.
Some French food can be a bit iffy as well!
Some French food can be a bit iffy as well!
Originally Posted by Wakizashi:
I'm not in the business of having the need to explain myself to you, under the circumstances in which I obtained it, and why 1kg was a necessary amount (bought for more than one person), or why I spent as much as I did, if you knew anything about the highest quality, its on a need to know basis, as the seasonal "catch" dictates the price, so any figures you get on the net will give a poor representation of the true price, as all of it is of inferior quality. While it is certainly true, that there are cheaper varieties available, The black sea species, is much rarer than the more commonly found Caspian Sea variant, which runs in the hundreds of dollars, not in the thousands, although they're both considered endangered, the Black Sea Beluga is near total extinction, less so in 03', but it's time has been at an eclipse for quite awhile, as the Russian, and Ukrainian Governments have absolutely zero desire to repopulate the Black Sea. Its not difficult to understand, that even the Ukrainians would much rather import this variety, instead of the exceedingly elusive (and far more expensive) Black Sea Variant. There is another subspecies, but it's even more expensive, and even more difficult to obtain (try closer to $20.000USD or a few years in prison if you're caught with it in the US).
And I will also note, that not once did I say that this was the first time I've had caviar, it's been something my palate has been very discriminating towards for quite some time. As I have mentioned before, I don't have it anymore, based on ethical grounds, rather than inexperience. I hope this addresses any of your concerns, but if not, I'll let you believe whatever you want. I promise, I'll try to care.
I will take your word now. This would be too much of a story to make up. And it is not as if I am an expert in this.I'm not in the business of having the need to explain myself to you, under the circumstances in which I obtained it, and why 1kg was a necessary amount (bought for more than one person), or why I spent as much as I did, if you knew anything about the highest quality, its on a need to know basis, as the seasonal "catch" dictates the price, so any figures you get on the net will give a poor representation of the true price, as all of it is of inferior quality. While it is certainly true, that there are cheaper varieties available, The black sea species, is much rarer than the more commonly found Caspian Sea variant, which runs in the hundreds of dollars, not in the thousands, although they're both considered endangered, the Black Sea Beluga is near total extinction, less so in 03', but it's time has been at an eclipse for quite awhile, as the Russian, and Ukrainian Governments have absolutely zero desire to repopulate the Black Sea. Its not difficult to understand, that even the Ukrainians would much rather import this variety, instead of the exceedingly elusive (and far more expensive) Black Sea Variant. There is another subspecies, but it's even more expensive, and even more difficult to obtain (try closer to $20.000USD or a few years in prison if you're caught with it in the US).
And I will also note, that not once did I say that this was the first time I've had caviar, it's been something my palate has been very discriminating towards for quite some time. As I have mentioned before, I don't have it anymore, based on ethical grounds, rather than inexperience. I hope this addresses any of your concerns, but if not, I'll let you believe whatever you want. I promise, I'll try to care.
Lobster.
I'd have to say caviar as well. It's not that I don't like it, but considering the cost...no thanks.
That's pretty expensive fish bait.
That's pretty expensive fish bait.
I agree on caviar, assuming it is Beluga/Sevruga. It is good stuff and I like it, but it's not worth the price. Cheaper caviar and roe in general should not be lumped into this discussion though, because plenty of them are pretty inexpensive.
I like caviar, the way it bursts in your mouth yummie.
It's not a food, but can someone explain to me the attraction of champagne?
Originally Posted by Tratorix:
Lobster.
I'll second that. I was so disappointed when I had lobster after all the hype I'd heard about how good it was.Lobster.
Salmon is another food in the same category. The rest of my family goes nuts for it but to me it is just overpriced "meh".
Originally Posted by Pannonian:
It's not a food, but can someone explain to me the attraction of champagne?
two glasses -> hammered. in a good way.It's not a food, but can someone explain to me the attraction of champagne?
Originally Posted by Pannonian:
It's not a food, but can someone explain to me the attraction of champagne?
Well - it's usually a very decent sparkling wine. I terms of quality and taste a good champagne certainly beats the standard sparkling wines that you get in supermarkets.It's not a food, but can someone explain to me the attraction of champagne?
Of course that does not mean that you cannot get excellent stuff from e.g. Germany ("Riesling-Sekt") or Italy. Also you certainly do not have to pay 100 EUR or so to get a good bottle of champagne.
Just as with wine - in the end you decide what you like and the variety of sparkling wines or wines in general is just to large to say "this one is the best"
However, if you are willing to pay more you tend to get a better product in a given category (that you can get the same quality for 5 EUR as for 30 EUR is not really true) but just going by price does not help either
Or is your question rather what the attraction of sparkling wine in general is?
Originally Posted by Ser Clegane:
Well - it's usually a very decent sparkling wine. I terms of quality and taste a good champagne certainly beats the standard sparkling wines that you get in supermarkets.
Of course that does not mean that you cannot get excellent stuff from e.g. Germany ("Riesling-Sekt") or Italy. Also you certainly do not have to pay 100 EUR or so to get a good bottle of champagne.
Just as with wine - in the end you decide what you like and the variety of sparkling wines or wines in general is just to large to say "this one is the best"
However, if you are willing to pay more you tend to get a better product in a given category (that you can get the same quality for 5 EUR as for 30 EUR is not really true) but just going by price does not help either
Or is your question rather what the attraction of sparkling wine in general is?
The last. I can't say I've tasted top quality champagne, so sparkly wine has never besotted me. Of the wine I've tried, I liked the homemade elderflower stuff the most. That was strong, had a deep flavour, and was flat.Well - it's usually a very decent sparkling wine. I terms of quality and taste a good champagne certainly beats the standard sparkling wines that you get in supermarkets.
Of course that does not mean that you cannot get excellent stuff from e.g. Germany ("Riesling-Sekt") or Italy. Also you certainly do not have to pay 100 EUR or so to get a good bottle of champagne.
Just as with wine - in the end you decide what you like and the variety of sparkling wines or wines in general is just to large to say "this one is the best"
However, if you are willing to pay more you tend to get a better product in a given category (that you can get the same quality for 5 EUR as for 30 EUR is not really true) but just going by price does not help either
Or is your question rather what the attraction of sparkling wine in general is?
Originally Posted by Pannonian:
The last.
I don't drink an awful lot of sparkling wine either - but I think it occasionally goes very nicely with a long Sunday breakfast or before a good dinner with friends.*The last.
In the 10-15 EUR range you already get pretty decent stuff IMHO - if I have the choice I would not buy anything below 5 EUR - I usually prefer a good beer over a bad (sparkling) wine
* and with certain dishes, e.g., the oysters (which I actually also rarely eat, and if, only a few)
People like champagne because the cork pops out and it's traditionally celebratory.
Originally Posted by Ser Clegane:
I don't drink an awful lot of sparkling wine either - but I think it occasionally goes very nicely with a long Sunday breakfast or before a good dinner with friends.*
In the 10-15 EUR range you already get pretty decent stuff IMHO - if I have the choice I would not buy anything below 5 EUR - I usually prefer a good beer over a bad (sparkling) wine
* and with certain dishes, e.g., the oysters (which I actually also rarely eat, and if, only a few)
Champagne pairs well with pretty much any food. It's easily the most versatile wine.I don't drink an awful lot of sparkling wine either - but I think it occasionally goes very nicely with a long Sunday breakfast or before a good dinner with friends.*
In the 10-15 EUR range you already get pretty decent stuff IMHO - if I have the choice I would not buy anything below 5 EUR - I usually prefer a good beer over a bad (sparkling) wine
* and with certain dishes, e.g., the oysters (which I actually also rarely eat, and if, only a few)
If you want a decent, affordable sparkling wine, try Gloria Ferrer Sonoma Brut. Nice palate, and typically retails for about $15.
Originally Posted by TinCow:
Champagne pairs well with pretty much any food.
I guess we have to agree to disagree here - but that's the fun of food and drink, isn't it? Champagne pairs well with pretty much any food.
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
Ribs are way better than steak...
Most overrated is probably some gourmet food like caviar. Or really expensive wine/beer/liquor.
you would pay good money for a big bone and a sliver of meat? Ribs are way better than steak...
Most overrated is probably some gourmet food like caviar. Or really expensive wine/beer/liquor.
I would say Foie Gras. Popular with snooty crowds, how it's made is horrible, supposedly doesn't taste that great either. Never had it, but that'd be my main vote.
On lobster. Absolutely LOVE it. I ate it 4 of the 6 nights of our honeymoon and it was heaven. Only thing is it's disappointing how much they charge for it. Almost makes me want to move to Maine.
On lobster. Absolutely LOVE it. I ate it 4 of the 6 nights of our honeymoon and it was heaven. Only thing is it's disappointing how much they charge for it. Almost makes me want to move to Maine.
Originally Posted by Whacker:
I would say Foie Gras. Popular with snooty crowds, how it's made is horrible, supposedly doesn't taste that great either. Never had it, but that'd be my main vote.
Dude. Dude. The day you'll have foie gras, your life won't be the same.I would say Foie Gras. Popular with snooty crowds, how it's made is horrible, supposedly doesn't taste that great either. Never had it, but that'd be my main vote.
I have to agree that caviar is overrated though. Though I don't find it completely disgusting, I admit that it sometimes feels like you're chewing tiny testicules. And it's goddam expensive.
Originally Posted by Whacker:
I would say Foie Gras. Popular with snooty crowds, how it's made is horrible, supposedly doesn't taste that great either. Never had it, but that'd be my main vote.
BURN HIM! BUUUURRRNNNN HIMMMMM!I would say Foie Gras. Popular with snooty crowds, how it's made is horrible, supposedly doesn't taste that great either. Never had it, but that'd be my main vote.
Foie Gras cannot possibly be overrated, because it is impossible to overrate something that is that good. Foie Gras pate is excellent, but fresh seared Foie Gras itself is almost divine. I'd force feed my own mother if it would make her liver taste that good. That said, Foie Gras is still second best to The Food of the Gods: Sweetbreads.
Originally Posted by Meneldil:
I admit that it sometimes feels like you're chewing tiny testicules. And it's goddam expensive.
Hey, in Russia, we have seledka (sort of like pickled herring, but we make it frommany sorts of fish), which often includes the "milk sack" - basically an organ which stores sperm. And I like it quite a bit. And you think munching on fish eggs is bad...I admit that it sometimes feels like you're chewing tiny testicules. And it's goddam expensive.
Not too fond of oysters, caviar or foie gras.
I absolutely love champagne or a decent sparkling wine though, especially with a good Sunday breakfeast or brunch
I absolutely love champagne or a decent sparkling wine though, especially with a good Sunday breakfeast or brunch
Originally Posted by Andres:
Not too fond of oysters, caviar or foie gras.
I absolutely love champagne or a decent sparkling wine though, especially with a good Sunday breakfeast or brunch
Do they have horseradish and Tabasco in Belgium?Not too fond of oysters, caviar or foie gras.
I absolutely love champagne or a decent sparkling wine though, especially with a good Sunday breakfeast or brunch
Originally Posted by Strike For The South:
Do they have horseradish and Tabasco in Belgium?
Yes.Do they have horseradish and Tabasco in Belgium?
Originally Posted by Andres:
Yes.
Have you put said products on oysters?Yes.
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