God, Religion, Creation/Evolution

[Zain]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

[Beefy187]

And I believe in the great giraffe of Black and White. Who has brought many blessing and misery simultaneously to this world. And as a proud giraffer, I grant you the freedom of believing what ever you want as long as you do the same to me.

[Kadagar_AV]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

I don't.

Prove me wrong.

[Samurai Waki]

Anyone who doesn't take truth seriously in small matters cannot be trusted in large ones either.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, idea. These threads always get locked.

And why would I waste my time proving something to someone who refuses to listen to science? You have your beliefs, be happy and live your own life. No need to scream out your beliefs in public . Not to mention, why antagonise Backroomers over pointless discussions?

Seriously, "prove me wrong"? Well, fine, I will let you have this one :P, tell me how to prove you wrong . How can I prove a cut-in-stone text wrong to its ardent believer? Why should I?

[pevergreen]

And I believe in the great giraffe of Black and White. Who has brought many blessing and misery simultaneously to this world. And as a proud giraffer, I grant you the freedom of believing what ever you want as long as you do the same to me.

Myst Giraffe? http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=my....3763485709..1

Notice that every photo of it has you in it...

[Beefy187]

Myst Giraffe? http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=my....3763485709..1

Notice that every photo of it has you in it...

Argh.. Pictures

[Aemilius Paulus]

Say, Zain, what is you take on Islam and Judaism? Honestly .

[miotas]

Pragmatic Agnosticism. Basically, if god(s) do(es) exist, then they obviously don't care about us so why should we care about them

[Aemilius Paulus]

Pragmatic Agnosticism. Basically, if god(s) do(es) exist, then they obviously don't care about us so why should we care about them

That is one of the silliest things I have heard. If god(s) are god(s) in the normal sense, then hey would have to interfere. Not care about us? No hate, no love? Then they are not god(s) but simply another being(s).

Bah, just stick with atheism. Lot less tightrope walking you have to do... Just saying that previous paragraph makes me lose all faith in higher beings...

[Beefy187]

That is one of the silliest things I have heard. If god(s) are god(s) in the normal sense, then hey would have to interfere. Not care about us? No hate, no love? Then they are not god(s) but simply another being(s).

Bah, just stick with atheism. Lot less tightrope walking you have to do... Just saying that previous paragraph makes me lose all faith in higher beings...

That depends on the definition of God.
If by God, means the creator, which pragmatic agnosticism people probably thinks, then God could've created us somehow, but haven't realized or chose to ignore our existence.

Take bugs for example. Some bugs like mosquitoes loves human blood. For some mosquitoes who successfully managed to suck blood may worship us humans, but the reality is, we simply didn't realize they were trying to suck blood. So it can be said that we are misunderstanding God (s). So I don't believe Pragmatic Agnosticism but I think it has a fair point.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Take bugs for example. Some bugs like mosquitoes loves human blood. For some mosquitoes who successfully managed to suck blood may worship us humans, but the reality is, we simply didn't realize they were trying to suck blood. So it can be said that we are misunderstanding God (s). So I don't believe Pragmatic Agnosticism but I think it has a fair point.

Then the perceived gods would be

simply another being(s).

[Beefy187]

Perhaps. Maybe God is just human or something similar, just with super awesome technology. Wait, is this Scientology?

[Samurai Waki]

Look. people believe in some weird things, and I don't hold it against them, if they do. But if you honestly believe that the world was created in six days by a bearded guy who hangs out in the clouds, then you should also consider the possibility that whenever a unicorn cries, an unwed teenage mother will get struck in her nickers by a lightening bolt. Not only does it sound completely insane, but it's maybe the most retarded thing I have ever thought up of. But hey, prove me wrong.

[Kadagar_AV]

Look. people believe in some weird things, and I don't hold it against them, if they do. But if you honestly believe that the world was created in six days by a bearded guy who hangs out in the clouds, then you should also consider the possibility that whenever a unicorn cries, an unwed teenage mother will get struck in her nickers by a lightening bolt. Not only does it sound completely insane, but it's maybe the most retarded thing I have ever thought up of. But hey, prove me wrong.

Doh! There ARE no unicorns!

So you cant compare it to god, as it says god exists in the BIBLE, the HOLY book. Unicorns only exists in folk lore. And as we all know, the bible is not folk lore...

[SwordsMaster]

Doh! There ARE no unicorns!

So you cant compare it to god, as it says god exists in the BIBLE, the HOLY book. Unicorns only exists in folk lore. And as we all know, the bible is not folk lore...

Personally I chose to believe in Loki, Hermes, and Ogier the Dane. I should write a holy book compiling the Arthurian legend, the Siege of Troy, and a random Saga. Who's with me?

[Csargo]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

Why should I have to prove something you believe is wrong?

Personally I chose to believe in Loki, Hermes, and Ogier the Dane. I should write a holy book compiling the Arthurian legend, the Siege of Troy, and a random Saga. Who's with me?

You had me at Loki

[Veho Nex]

I believe in Karma. I believe that you give good to get good, give bad to get bad. If you have a run of bad luck, look it in the face and take it with pride knowing as long as you are good during that period good things will come your way.

Everyman is entitled to his opinion, and if you choose to believe that there was one or many or... a mystical giraffe, so be it. Who am I to say what you can and cannot do.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

Sure, but I have to go to work. I'll quite happily cross swords with you later.

[Hax]

I believe in Karma. I believe that you give good to get good, give bad to get bad. If you have a run of bad luck, look it in the face and take it with pride knowing as long as you are good during that period good things will come your way.

Don't forget, Karma is an ever-changing thing. We can influence it here and now.

[Tribesman]

Prove me wrong.

Have you ever played chess against a pigeon?

Didn't that bloke who compiled the bible you seem to think is right say that people who do literal interpretations of scripture and argue scripture against science are just dumb people of little faith who make a mockery of Christianity.

Perhaps you can prove that someone who you beleive was really wrong, but that would be proving yourself wrong.
So you have to prove that you don't believe someone you do believe which errrrr......proves you wrong.

Cretinists eh?
You put up the board, place the pieces.
Then they flap their wings knock over the chess set, defecate on the board and squawk that they have just won a grand masters tournament.

[Ronin]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

*Picks up a fossil and throws it over your head*

the next one will fly lower!

I am done with this discussion.

[Samurai Waki]

Have you ever played chess against a pigeon?

Didn't that bloke who compiled the bible you seem to think is right say that people who do literal interpretations of scripture and argue scripture against science are just dumb people of little faith who make a mockery of Christianity.

Perhaps you can prove that someone who you beleive was really wrong, but that would be proving yourself wrong.
So you have to prove that you don't believe someone you do believe which errrrr......proves you wrong.

Cretinists eh?
You put up the board, place the pieces.
Then they flap their wings knock over the chess set, defecate on the board and squawk that they have just won a grand masters tournament.

This is Genius.

[Tribesman]

This is Genius.

Compared to Genesis

[Meneldil]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

That Bible wasn't generally taken litteraly until the 11th century or so. Were early christians more wrong then you?

Now, as there's no real content in your first post, I don't expect this thread to live longer than a few hours. Care to elaborate and post a real topic which we can discuss?

[Kadagar_AV]

This is Genius.

Compared to Genesis

Edit: Deleted. Let's not take any risks! Big brother / thought police - is watching you.

I was however arguing that tribes kind of had a point.

[Ironside]

I believe in the Hebrew God. I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I believe in the literal 6 day Creation. And I believe in a "Young Earth". There was no gap between Genesis 1 verse 1 and 2. Adam was the first man.

Prove me wrong.

I'm going to assume that mentioning things like fossil records, humanoids, signs of evolution, geology, astronomy, radiometric dating, archeological findings isn't gonna help much here so I'll start with asking you some questions.

How long ago did God create earth?

When was the flood?

How did God kill the animals that breathe water?
How did Noah do to cram in over 60.000 animals, (Vertebrate) many of them carniviours, in a less than 40.000m3 large boat and keeping about a year's supplies on it? The Bible is quite silent on this matter, even while giving a very weak hint that God did protect the plants for being under 8850 meters of water for about a year.
(Which asks the question on why building the boat in the first place, but I digress).

[Tribesman]

How long ago did God create earth?

Last tuesday, just before teatime.
Prove me wrong , it is written so it is true as it is true as it is written.

When was the flood?

Wednesday afternoon , surprising really as the day started out so nice , but you know how quick the weather can change.

How did God kill the animals that breathe water?

By being a god

How did Noah do to cram in over 60.000 animals,....

God helped him with gods magic

Which asks the question on why building the boat in the first place

Ah, that was just god having a laugh with noah at his expense.
Gods can have a sense of humour too you know , just look at the ornithorhynchus anatinus , god absolutely wet himself laughing when he thought that joke up.

[Hax]

Explain this, and this and our weak this.

[Tribesman]

Explain this, and this and our weak this.

Thats God, and god ....oh and god again
I mean come on, if someone can dream up a platypus for a laugh then dreaming up an appendix that doesn't do anything but can kill you if it stops doing its nothing is really childs play.

Seriously Gods platypus joke would get sold out at the top venues year after year at edinburgh.
On the other hand the appendix routine might get a few tickets sold to close friends in a one off event in a small upstairs room at the back of an unpopular pub if the festival was really short of acts.