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    No problem. Your opening now is far better.

    Just another point, you mention this:
    Believing in a higher power and that there are things more important than ourselves is a good thing. Forgetting that leads to selfishness and base corruption.
    I partly agree with this. However, if you reworded it to:
    Believing in that there are things more important than ourselves is a good thing. Forgetting that leads to selfishness and base corruption.
    I completely agree with this statement. Mainly because of the definitions of "Higher Power" and the fact, you don't actually need to believe in a "Higher Power" to realise there are many important things, and argubly, in many cases where people do believe in a higher power, they can cause and create great selfishness and base corruption intentionally, invoking that "Higher Power" 's name.

    (Also as a note as it was mentioned above, Higher Power could imply: Satan, 'God', Cthulu, etc)
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    Default Re: The Questions of How and Why

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    No problem. Your opening now is far better.

    Just another point, you mention this:


    I partly agree with this. However, if you reworded it to:


    I completely agree with this statement. Mainly because of the definitions of "Higher Power" and the fact, you don't actually need to believe in a "Higher Power" to realise there are many important things, and argubly, in many cases where people do believe in a higher power, they can cause and create great selfishness and base corruption intentionally, invoking that "Higher Power" 's name.

    (Also as a note as it was mentioned above, Higher Power could imply: Satan, 'God', Cthulu, etc)
    Well my interpretation of "higher power" is broad. Much like by belief in a "universal order." Now, according to quantum physics, the norm is disorder which, to me, is the order of things.


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    I don't think you should link spirituality, religion, and ritual together like that.

    The ritualistic elements of religion are IMO simply due to the human nature that makes people substitute these things in place of a more direct relationship with God. Like when people say they feel close to God because they went to visit some relic on display... well that's most likely just them getting a buzz from the atmosphere, they could get the same effect without their religious beliefs. in fact, I would say ritualistic worship is very much destructive to faith, and contrary to basic Christian principles.

    Also not sure on the spirituality bit. People that know me say they are really surprised that I coud be religious and have a 'spiritual' element, because my thought processes in everyday life tend to be very logical and I generally come across as if I am autistic or something. But I don't see it as being spiritual, since I just talk to God like I would talk to anyone else. It's not spiritualism if I'm talking to something that's real. Same with my rather fatalistic outlook on things... I don't see that as spiritualism, since God intervenes as directly in my life as surely as he did for David or Solomon or the prophets, or when he parted the Red Sea (if you believe that, of couse). It's not seeking some sort of otherwordly spirituality, for me God's just part of the everyday reality.
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