Republican or Democrat

**CountArach** · 10-17-2009, 14:20

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Oh dear...

Marx here does not describe the communist state. 'The modern state' describes the existing bourgeois' states of his time.

The nation-state is a bourgeois construction. Marx does say that the workers are without a nation (Can't be bothered to find the exact quote at my fingertips). As such the destruction of the Capitalist Superstructure necessitates the destruction of the very concept of a nation-state.

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

You wouldn't be one of those revolutionaries who've only read the Manifesto and never (the completely unreadable) Das Kapital?

I have never read Das Kapital (Though I fully intend to once I can find a print version). I have, however, read quite a few of the more obscure writings of Marx, at least in part.

EDIT: Though I do believe we have strayed somewhat from the original question... my mistake.

**Louis VI the Fat** · 10-17-2009, 14:25

Mistake? Rubbish.

About time we hijacked US politics threads to talk about Marx and the coming revolution.

I demand the addition to this poll of the option 'Socialist Worker's Party of the US' !!

**gaelic cowboy** · 10-17-2009, 15:38

The Revolution man did ye not hear ye missed it all in 1989.
The ordinary people in commie land only wanted ipods and plasma tv's same as me

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-21-2009, 22:40

I'm a member of the Pizza party.

**Subotan** · 10-21-2009, 23:40

Ok, but what will your policies do for the working man?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-21-2009, 23:53

Feed them.

Also medicare for all.

**KukriKhan** · 10-22-2009, 03:10

indy.

(Gotta use a lower-case "i", to distinguish from The Independent Party). Or for the californiated-impaired: DTS (Decline To State).

Like roughly half of the eligible voting population of the US. And the ones who decide elections the past 20 or so years.

In my 40 year voting career, I've voted Dem, Repub, Peace & Freedom, Libertarian, Reform, Green, Natural Law. And maybe the Raccoon Rights Party, if I remember correctly. It's the individual guy, ya see. I try to asses his/her conscience. Then expect/hope that he/she follows it through his/her term.

I have been disappointed; sometimes by my fellow electors, and sometimes by my picks. Sometimes both (Bush's second election springs to mind).