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    Default Re: Conservatvce or Liberal

    You made the same thread twice, why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    You made the same thread twice, why?
    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=122479
    Read the OP, he said by "popular demand". I think it was because of my post, which pointed out that everything in Europe is shifted to the left, so very few Europeans would rather agree with US Republican policies. Plus, GOP vs Dems is simply so America-centric. In the multi-national, rather diverse Backroom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus View Post
    Read the OP, he said by "popular demand". I think it was because of my post, which pointed out that everything in Europe is shifted to the left, so very few Europeans would rather agree with US Republican policies. Plus, GOP vs Dems is simply so America-centric. In the multi-national, rather diverse Backroom.
    That's a rather crude way of looking at it. Europe is not "shifted to the left" any more than America is shifted to the "right", though one has to wonder how your Protestant ruling class became so militaristic and conservative.
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    Radical Social Democrat, so neither of those positions are suitable.
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    Default Re: Conservatvce or Liberal

    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Radical Social Democrat, so neither of those positions are suitable.
    Please explain what is "Radical Social Democrat"?

    Do you mean you are a fierce Social-Democrat, or do support some Radical Social-Democratism (e.g. conventional Socialism?)
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    Default Re: Conservatvce or Liberal

    Wouldn't a Radical Social Democract be a Democratic Socialist?

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    I find my political philosphy to go from one extreme to the other.

    In general, I believe the well-educated individual will always make better choices about their behavior and their finances than any well-intentioned government ever could. I believe in non-interventionist foreign policies because I respect the sovereignty of places even like North Korea and Iran, and consider the overthrow of Kim Jong-Il (or Saddam Hussein) a matter for North Koreans (or Iraqis), not well intentioned Americans.

    That being said, experience and knowledge of the world has proven to me that the ideal I list above, orginally articulated by my hero Alexander Hamilton, is probably unattainable.

    All I have to do is read a story about the widespread abuses women, children and the elderly suffer in our society, and I could easily become a Leninist, minus the ban on religion. Are there any collectivist-authoritarian-Christian ideologies out there? If somebody says "Lords' Resistance Army" they're going to get a fat lip.... That's not at all what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Radical Social Democrat, so neither of those positions are suitable.
    I thought you was a Libertarian Socialist like myself?
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    Social democrat. Thanks for including that option and many, many others on the poll, Zain.

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    Oh Man!

    A proliferation of polls!

    I am Conservative enough to want to conserve what is good and Liberal enough to want to reform what is bad.

    Would I use one of those titles? Not anymore!

    I don’t trust the people trying to tell me what is good or what is bad, I pretty much know that already.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    I thought you was a Libertarian Socialist like myself?
    Ideally, yes. That's pretty much where the radical side of it comes in. Basically I support a heavily reformed Democracy that is more Participatory and inclusive, and which would implement Socialism insofar as a state can. At that point an activist and radical working class can destroy what the state cannot, and take power for themselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    That's a rather crude way of looking at it. Europe is not "shifted to the left" any more than America is shifted to the "right", though one has to wonder how your Protestant ruling class became so militaristic and conservative.
    For one, not "your", as I am not an American citizen :P. Secondly, why not? Europe is greatly more liberal and leftist than US. Its political spectrum is slanted towards the left in comparison to US. What part of that is not correct?
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