UK English Grammar vs. US English Grammar

[Strike For The South]

Where i'm from we always say "check please!" when we're done eating at a restaurant.

That's because it's nothing but Ital's. Going into a restaurant in Jersey is like walking into a buzzsaw. Loud, confusing, and lots of guys who shop at the big n tall.

The correct thing to do is this:

Sir, May I have the check?

Yes sir, I'll bring that right out to you

Thank you

You're welcome.

No yelling and no demanding. You yankees are always in a hurry.

[Vladimir]

That's because it's nothing but Ital's. Going into a restaurant in Jersey is like walking into a buzzsaw. Loud, confusing, and lots of guys who shop at the big n tall.

The correct thing to do is this:

Sir, May I have the check?

Yes sir, I'll bring that right out to you

Thank you

You're welcome.

No yelling and no demanding. You yankees are always in a hurry.

That's why you people still ride horses. Get off the road!

[Louis VI the Fat]

The correct thing to do is this:

Sir, May I have the check?

Yes sir, I'll bring that right out to you

Thank you

You're welcome.

No yelling and no demanding. You yankees are always in a hurry.

An entire conversation, in English, without any occurrence of that most essential of British words: 'please'.





See, this is what I meant in the 'you uncivili(z/s)ed brute' thread. It is not so much the words or the spelling, but the use of language that is the most telling difference between American or British English.

Strike's conversation just screams 'America'. Here's the same conversation in Britain:
'Excuse me, could we have the cheque please?'
'Sod off, mate'
'Oh pardon me. Ever so sorry to disturb you'
'Can't you see I'm busy, you *anagram of Newark*?'

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

An entire conversation, in English, without any occurrence of that most essential of British words: 'please'.





See, this is what I meant in the 'you uncivili(z/s)ed brute' thread. It is not so much the words or the spelling, but the use of language that is the most telling difference between American or British English.

Strike's conversation just screams 'America'. Here's the same conversation in Britain:
'Excuse me, could we have the cheque please?'
'Sod off, mate'
'Oh pardon me. Ever so sorry to disturb you'
'Can't you see I'm busy, you *anagram of Newark*?'

Actually, I'd be more inclined to say:

"Excuse me, could I see the bill please?

Your example provokes the "sod off" response for obvious reasons.

[Louis VI the Fat]

Actually, I'd be more inclined to say:

"Excuse me, could I see the bill please?

You're example provokes the "sod off" response for obvious reasons.

That explains it all!

[Vladimir]

Actually, I'd be more inclined to say:

"Excuse me, could I see the bill please?

You're example provokes the "sod off" response for obvious reasons.

You see, this is what *I* hate.

[Fisherking]

Drat!

This thread has run on for four pages before I saw it!


Anyway, who ever said that the British is correct because it is English , (if they did) is so full of it!

Yes, all my spelling depends on Microsoft, but you may want to research the language before making blanket statements everyone.

The oldest spoken English comes from districts in Dublin.

Spelling wasn’t fixed in the language until Noah Webster started spelling reforms....he was one anal-retentive old cuss, but American. The English got around to fixed spelling some time later.


You can’t just say that A) is wrong and B) is right but American English is older in origin than the standard British English.

[Samurai Waki]

Drat!You can’t just say that A) is wrong and B) is right but American English is older in origin than the standard British English.

Ah, so thats why Hollywood always casts Americans who can't fake a British Accent, for roles meant to be played by 17th Century Englishmen/women. It's more authentic.

[Fisherking]

Ah, so thats why Hollywood always casts Americans who can't fake a British Accent, for roles meant to be played by 17th Century Englishmen/women. It's more authentic.

I am sure it is only accidental, but yes it is more of the sound of the age.

Most Elizabethan speakers would have sounded like Dubliners to our ears.

North American speakers reflect the vowel sounds of the 17th and 18th century.

The change occurred in England, not abroad.

The Australians reflect the changed sounds at the time of there settlement and the further change can hear in the further changes of the New Zealanders who were settled later.

Spelling is more arbitrary and reflects the vowel sounds of the person who decided that what thy wrote was correct.

Think of how the spelling would have changed if the first dictionary were published in Cork or Glasgow.

What we think of as standard English (BBC English) didn’t come about until the mid 1820s. Prior to that the standard form would have sounded more like a North American speaker.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Drat!

This thread has run on for four pages before I saw it!


Anyway, who ever said that the British is correct because it is English , (if they did) is so full of it!

Yes, all my spelling depends on Microsoft, but you may want to research the language before making blanket statements everyone.

The oldest spoken English comes from districts in Dublin.

Spelling wasn’t fixed in the language until Noah Webster started spelling reforms....he was one anal-retentive old cuss, but American. The English got around to fixed spelling some time later.


You can’t just say that A) is wrong and B) is right but American English is older in origin than the standard British English.

First comprehensive dictionary in English was Samuel Johnson (1755), that's where our spellings originate, and it's the starting point for the OED.

Webster didn't have decisive impact, did he?

[Pannonian]

First comprehensive dictionary in English was Samuel Johnson (1755), that's where our spellings originate, and it's the starting point for the OED.

Wasn't that destroyed in a fire though? Or am I confusing that with another book?

[Beskar]

Spelling wasn’t fixed in the language until Noah Webster started spelling reforms....he was one anal-retentive old cuss, but American. The English got around to fixed spelling some time later.

Nah, it isn't fixed, full of errors. Shavian is closer to being actually fixed English, though Esperanto is closer to a fixed language.

[Viking]

You see, this is what *I* hate.

Its a disaster.

[Subotan]

The oldest spoken English comes from districts in Dublin.

Wait, what?

Its a disaster.

I'm guessing that was intentional.

[AlexanderSextus]

That's because it's nothing but Ital's. Going into a restaurant in Jersey is like walking into a buzzsaw. Loud, confusing, and lots of guys who shop at the big n tall.

The correct thing to do is this:

Sir, May I have the check?

Yes sir, I'll bring that right out to you

Thank you

You're welcome.

No yelling and no demanding. You yankees are always in a hurry.

You rednecks always have to make things so complicated. Why say all that when you can just stick your finger in the air, Exclaim, "Check Please!" Recieve the check, then say "Thanks" and Thats it?

An entire conversation, in English, without any occurrence of that most essential of British words: 'please'.





See, this is what I meant in the 'you uncivili(z/s)ed brute' thread. It is not so much the words or the spelling, but the use of language that is the most telling difference between American or British English.

Strike's conversation just screams 'America'. Here's the same conversation in Britain:
'Excuse me, could we have the cheque please?'
'Sod off, mate'
'Oh pardon me. Ever so sorry to disturb you'
'Can't you see I'm busy, you *anagram of Newark*?'

You may have noticed that the much shorter NJ way of doing it actually does include "please".

That's why it works so well. Polite and Assertive, as well as short and to the point.

[Strike For The South]

You rednecks always have to make things so complicated. Why say all that when you can just stick your finger in the air, Exclaim, "Check Please!" Recieve the check, then say "Thanks" and Thats it?

Rednecks? I'm sorry we have class and manners. I'm sorry we're not in a rush to do everything, slow down you'll live longer.

You yankees are just like Europeans. You're fast paced and you talk funny.

[AlexanderSextus]

I'm sorry we have class and manners.

Apology Accepted. We were really getting tired of you being so stuck up, ya know.

[Subotan]

So SFTS is a Southern Gentleman? The height of Texan Culture?The zenith of American sophistication?

Wellll, I guess those would all mean something if that excellent quote by Jacques Chirac that Louis has in his sig wasn't true

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Rednecks? I'm sorry we have class and manners. I'm sorry we're not in a rush to do everything, slow down you'll live longer.

You yankees are just like Europeans. You're fast paced and you talk funny.

I take it you can actually satisfy honour with a sabre or rapier, then?

[Banquo's Ghost]

I take it you can actually satisfy honour with a sabre or rapier, then?

A gentleman knows that pistols are just as permitted, and in such a case, I for one would not be keen to face a Texan on the field of honour.

My lily liver however, would be saved because the fellow would still be searching for the field of honor at the appointed hour...

[Samurai Waki]

A gentleman knows that pistols are just as permitted, and in such a case, I for one would not be keen to face a Texan on the field of honour.

My lily liver however, would be saved because the fellow would still be searching for the field of honor at the appointed hour...

A Texan's only weapon of honour is of course, his fists. And they duel to the death.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

A gentleman knows that pistols are just as permitted, and in such a case, I for one would not be keen to face a Texan on the field of honour.

My lily liver however, would be saved because the fellow would still be searching for the field of honor at the appointed hour...

My assumption was that, being Texan, he was proficient with with firearms, Sir.