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    Default Re: I'm happy with the AI

    C'mon now, this is CA. Do you really think they are going to care about ahistorical units being present in their game?

    This is the same company that brought us the Egyptians and Arcani of Rome: TW vanilla, after all.
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    I don't think the engine is designed to actually introduce units at specific times like RTW with the Marius reforms.

    I suppose they could've set the "Lance" as a tech upgrade that would unlock it or leave it for higher level barracks.

    Prussia I know gets lancers once they capture Saxony and Prague I think with higher level barracks.

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    or maybe he just calls his cavalry lancers cos he feels like it....

    as to the AI ive seen some promising things in my recent game as spain on VH/H

    it was a campaign i started b4 the patch, when i loaded in after my first turn i had 3 different peace treaties offered. all from factions i had been winning against previously. the only faction which wont offer me peace and wont accept my peace treaties was the Italian states and this was because I abandoned my Italian provinces to take africa from barbary.

    also on my first turn the half stack of morocco rebels which had been sitting doing nothing moved on my town which only had 2 units of militia in it and took it back. this stack had been inactive for 10+ turns doing nothing just sitting fortified with only those 2 units of militia in the town 1 turn away (and no town watch or w/e)

    aside from this the AI is being much more active. GB just launched an naval invasion of France, my protectorate New Spain is blockading ports and attacking the native indians in america. Prussia is carving up Europe although most of the minors are still alive. i havnt had any mindless DoW on me since the patch. even the pirates are more actively blocking ports.

    your post is a beautiful and well written expression of everything I think is gimped about this game

    heres a different angle
    they stupidly declared a war they were ill prepared for because of the CAIs border war diplomacy model - they didnt ally with each ohter before declaring war

    having declared war they passively sit in their city - rather than some sort of combined alliance attack

    The resulting milk run was due to AI predictable flank with cav manouver, General-seeking artillary, and generally gimped battle AI cause its units to flounder around like jellyfish

    Then they sued for peace... and you accepted !! why? they were kaput .. do you want to have to replay this in a few turns when they senselessly declare war again.

    Its not exactly the description of a challenging battle

    I guess its ok if your satisfied playing out a game of unchallenging repetitive battles with the game end already a forgone conclusion

    but that would bore me to tears
    This is an extremely negative view on his post.

    1. why is the DoW stupid, france isnt much more powerful than the minors at the start, france starts with like 2? and there is probably an inbuilt dislike between the 2 nations which factors in too.

    2. they sit in their city because the Ai is designed to not abandon its cities completely ALSO he stated he immediately besieged it, ie the AI didnt have a chance to go attack him.

    3. the fact that they sued for peace instead of dying horribly is a good thing, that he choose to accept it is up to him and no they wont break the alliance in a few turns and DoW him.


    i agree with AussieGiant it just goes to show that u cant please everyone, the new patch is a great improvement in a lot of peoples eyes but you cant please everyone.

    All in all it seems much improved so im quite happy.

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    he lost 16 men



    I see alot of people going along way to accomodate the AI

    when really its doing the same stupid stuff as before

    hey if you want a game where you fight a major battle and only lose 16 men... you will love ETW

    Im not being down on you guys, clearly you are the guys that Mr Simpson referred to in his recent blog that like to not have the AI interfere with their plans for global domination, although he tried some nationalistic slant, clearly he needs to broaden his brush.

    and when the Indians invade Austria with canoes Im sure that will be genius AI

    as Mr Simpson said the problem isnt the AI its that we are too dumb to appreciate its Genius

    erm yeh ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by knoddy View Post
    i agree with AussieGiant it just goes to show that u cant please everyone,
    cheers Knoddy
    precisely... and clearly some people are alot easier to please
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yunson View Post
    precisely... and clearly some people are alot easier to please
    You can please me anytime you want baby.

    By taking that quote out of your sig.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pevergreen View Post
    You can please me anytime you want baby.

    By taking that quote out of your sig.
    NEVER !!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
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    Default Re: I'm happy with the AI

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Yunson View Post
    he lost 16 men



    I see alot of people going along way to accomodate the AI

    when really its doing the same stupid stuff as before

    hey if you want a game where you fight a major battle and only lose 16 men... you will love ETW

    Im not being down on you guys, clearly you are the guys that Mr Simpson referred to in his recent blog that like to not have the AI interfere with their plans for global domination, although he tried some nationalistic slant, clearly he needs to broaden his brush.

    and when the Indians invade Austria with canoes Im sure that will be genius AI

    as Mr Simpson said the problem isnt the AI its that we are too dumb to appreciate its Genius

    erm yeh ok

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    precisely... and clearly some people are alot easier to please

    i believe his comments (and i know mine were) were directed at the campaign AI, nobody said anything about battle AI and or difficulty.

    but since were nit picking, he prob outnumbered them, and outtech'd them AND he had a strong defensive position on a hill. sounds like the kind of battle where u expect to win with minimal casualties his cannons made most of their units route b4 they got to fighting his line infantry


    im not defending CA or sayin the game is perfect. im saying the campaign AI is much improved.

    clearly some people like seeing the glass half empty

    cheers knoddy
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