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You two can keep thinking that government is out to get you, and let companies walk all over you for the sake of keeping the free market alive and I'll keep thinking my own out of touch ideologies.

The point I've been trying to make this whole thread is that companies aren't walking over anybody. All the dangers about not having net neutrality ARE JUST SPECULATION.

I see the internet as the conservative dream come true.
Well then don't believe the net neutrality people who harp on non-existent problems.

If there really will be a problem because we don't have net neutrality, then let's go on without regulation until we see the problem. And then, we can think about regulation designed for the actual problems.

That's simple logic.

And ACIN, if we're blocked, it's because you ignored my post with the blog link and tried (and failed) to pull a tribesy. You've been going on about how you think the corporations are idiots and won't invest in their networks, and then I show you how they've invested hundreds of billions of dollars in the past couple of years. And that goes for a lot of other examples you've given, like that the internet was an ignored market in the last decade. Sometimes, ACIN, I think you aren't getting your views on corporations from the right source. Take this for example:
No, companies have only realized recently the power that the internet provides consumers and they are afraid of it and are now attempting to stop it.
That makes no sense, it's like it came from the latest issue of socialist monthly. How in the world could companies only recently realize the power of the internet? Were they on drugs the last 15 years?

And why would the ISPs be afraid of the internet giving the consumers more power to choose? If the internet is more important to consumers, then they will use more of it, which is good for the ISPs. See, this is the bit that really doesn't make sense; the idea that the ISPs would not like consumers having power seems to be based on the idea that corporations are evil or out to gain power or control over people, or that their interests always go against the consumer.

There's no reason to think any of that, because corporations are in it for profit. And profit comes from satisfied consumers (unless they get the government to prevent people from choosing or to give them an edge somehow).

The whole idea that ISPs want to stop consumers from using the power the internet has given them is stupid as well. First of all, they've known how the internet has affected people for a decade and haven't tried to stop it. Secondly, there is absolutely no reason for them to try and stop people from using the internet to their advantage. There's no reason behind it.

So if to pay for VoIP is to pay for your use of 3G, what it the usual monthly bill to pay for? To pay for your use of 3G, yet again?
If all iPhone users used VoIP, the network physically couldn't handle it. So how else would you prevent the network from deteriorating for everybody using it because to much traffic is traveling on it?

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