How do I Crusade?

[Prussian to the Iron]

You don't really need to put them on a ship. I've sent a crusade overland from Caen to Antioch with no ill effects to my relations with other catholic factions. As long as it continues moving towards the goal, you don't get any desertions either.

unfortunately this is really the only way to do it from England; i once tried to sai a crusading army from london to Jerusalem, and somehow people still deserted, even when i was just trying to sail around france.

[Quintus.JC]

unfortunately this is really the only way to do it from England; i once tried to sai a crusading army from london to Jerusalem, and somehow people still deserted, even when i was just trying to sail around france.

You could sail your ships to Southern France first, then send your land forces to march through France to join your fleet. That way there won't be any desertions since you are never marching away from the target settlement (this route was used by Richard and Philip II in the 3rd crusade, they marched through France first and then sailed at Italy). Alternatively you could start from Caen, march toward the southern France coast, then hire mercenary ships to carry your men to the holy land. But beware of this method because the mercenary ships are mostly of poor quality (cogs) and would be in trouble when facing any naval oppositions.

It is troublesome for English forces to reach the Holy land entirely by sea. Sailing around the Iberian penisular will lose you massive amount of men. In my opinion the best method is still to do a bit of travelling by foot and then by ship, instead of getting there entirely on foot.

[Seabourch]

Where the hell do men go when they desert from a ship? Do they drown or suddenly gain the ability to work on one water like a certain Jew 2000 years ago?

[Rahwana]

That's why I favour Jihad over Crusade.... DIE INFIELS!!!! (jihad was more potent to be abused than crusade)

[Cute Wolf]

That's why I favour Jihad over Crusade.... DIE INFIELS!!!! (jihad was more potent to be abused than crusade)

Meh, befriend the Pope, and getting stable alliance between Catholics is the better idea with the crusade..... After that, I'll launch a crusade on your lands and clear your force away from earth!

Ehem... seriously, both has their own strength and weakness... Crusade needs to be coordinated... but in turn, gaining acess to better traits and gifts (good for RP). Jihad in the other hands sent your troops directly into the fray and only got "holy warriors" with less side traits.... (You couldn't RP drunken master becomes the Holiest Men on earth with Jihad, wait... true muslims don't drinks! )

[G. Septimus]

Where the hell do men go when they desert from a ship? Do they drown or suddenly gain the ability to work on one water like a certain Jew 2000 years ago?

maybe they escape using the boats on the ship. kind of weird though
well, Jihad's were for Islamic factions that defend they're land were more succsessful then the Crusades. Crusading armies need to sail or march from a long distance

[Quintus.JC]

maybe they escape using the boats on the ship. kind of weird though
well, Jihad's were for Islamic factions that defend they're land were more succsessful then the Crusades. Crusading armies need to sail or march from a long distance

Historically so, but in the game a Jihad could carry you all the way to Paris or London. So it's not necessarily just the long distance marches for the crusaders.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Historically so, but in the game a Jihad could carry you all the way to Paris or London. So it's not necessarily just the long distance marches for the crusaders.

you also dont get any punishment for doing nothing, and you usually are the one to call them.

[Quintus.JC]

you also dont get any punishment for doing nothing, and you usually are the one to call them.

Exactly. I once tried to mass migrate my Turks to Frace; called the jihad at Paris and marched through all of Europe to get there. Muslim factions can serious exploit this system.