Israel and Hamas possibly facing a trial

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-23-2009, 09:01

the UN is in no position to dictate about morals to Israel.

Because you are the choosen ones? Like in "Highlander"?

Newsflash, the UN is ALL about dictating morals to individual states. One might even argue that is the reason why the UN exists!

we took a risk in pulling out of gaza with the UN telling us that they would come to our defense.

Some rabbid rabi told you this? I would love if you gave some links to support it, because from all I have read, that is... Just wrong.

for years rockets fell on civilian populations and the UN was silent.

How many civilians did those rockets kill? In the meantime, how many civilians did israel kill? And let's face it, the UN wasn't really silent, nor the world press. I even heard about it in backwater Austria.

we fight back, they go nuts.

Well, if less civilians and ordinary citizens would get hurt in your "fight back" I dont think many would have a problem. Israel is a modern state, you have the technology to limit non-military casualties. You just choose not to. Are you suprised people react?

besides most western nations didnt vote for it. now what does that tell you about it?

It tells me that most western nations thinks we might aswell build a wall around both countries, throw in some weapons occasionaly, and show it on prime-time TV.

what a load of

idiots, the UN all are. a joke, thats what they are. run by thugs and liars. (sorry i had to vent.)

Yeah, cause anyone not agreeing on Israels stance in their conflict is thugs and liars. Not to mention nazis. Remind me again, how many civilians has Israel killed? Is it more or less than the other side? You cant have the belief that one israeli life = 10 others and have it agreed on world wide.

Bibis speech to the UN was magnificent. that is all i will say about the matter, coming to the realization that debate here is futile.

When I say that debate is futile, I would rather point at individual cases than general ones

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 10-23-2009, 09:33

I wish there could be a way to erase that whole region. World would be much nicer then.

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-23-2009, 09:53

Originally Posted by Ibn-Khaldun

I wish there could be a way to erase that whole region. World would be much nicer then.

You know, I could say the F-word and get banned...

But a statement like yours is quite ok... AMERICA,

YEAH!!!!

However, I am still in favour of building walls and throwing in weapons, broadcasted on live-TV at prime-time

He "wished there were" (subjunctive, hence clearly hypothetical) and did not single out any particular nation/culture for cultur bashing. So yes, his statement DOES pass muster as an expression of frustration (however unrealistic). SF

**Ser Clegane** · 10-23-2009, 10:00

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

AMERICA,

YEAH!!!!

Knee-jerk very much, huh? What makes you think the post you responded to is in any way related to the US?

**Kadagar_AV** · 10-23-2009, 10:05

Originally Posted by Ser Clegane

Knee-jerk very much, huh? What makes you think the post you responded to is in any way related to the US?

Uh, actually that was <- to a popular movie where nationalistic moral algorithms were seen as a saviour of the free world in a very sarcastic way.

Nationalities aside

EDIT: One might also ask who Israels biggest supporter is.

EDIT no. 2: Isn't it kind of strange that a forum allows someone to claim a whole region should be erased, while at the same time banning people for using the A-B-C-word? Sometimes one would rather have the thought-police than the word-police ;)

**Ibn-Khaldun** · 10-23-2009, 11:28

Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV

EDIT no. 2: Isn't it kind of strange that a forum allows someone to claim a whole region should be erased, while at the same time banning people for using the A-B-C-word? Sometimes one would rather have the thought-police than the word-police ;)

What can I do.. All that unwillingness to solve their problems as matured people is giving me a headache.

You know there is a saying(I try to translate this to English):

"Little boys solve their problems with fists but men solve their problems with words."

So.. Now you know what I think about those who are in power there..