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    Fragony is quite right, we should cancel our diplomatic ties with the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Fragony is quite right, we should cancel our diplomatic ties with the United States.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    For those regimes it really is, for us less so. There is really nothing to discuss, what shall we talk about, people disappearing, torture.
    Hmmm... What was that other country I heard that about? It can't have been the US, the beacon of light... The US would never, say, torture people or make people disappear...


    United Nations against Israel would be a more apropiate name.
    Agreed. Cause it's not like Israel could do anything wrong...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Hmmm... What was that other country I heard that about? It can't have been the US, the beacon of light... The US would never, say, torture people or make people disappear...
    Don't act too dissapointed, beacon of light no, despite the Messias. Better than these regimes yes, where would you rather have an opinion on the government, the west, or the rest.

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    I'd rather have America as the sole superpower of the world than any of the other potential candidates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    Agreed. Cause it's not like Israel could do anything wrong...
    It isn't that Israel can't do anything wrong, and nobody says that, it's that Israel is being disproportionately targeted by them.

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    I'd rather have Europe as the sole superpower on the world than any of the others.

    Just because something is the best available doesn't mean it can't be improved. I thought that was part of America and capitalism, to strive for the better at all times, even when you're on top. So stop whining and try to improve things, it's the American way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I'd rather have Europe as the sole superpower on the world than any of the others.
    I'm not quite as keen on that.

    Just because something is the best available doesn't mean it can't be improved. I thought that was part of America and capitalism, to strive for the better at all times, even when you're on top. So stop whining and try to improve things, it's the American way.
    That is precisely why I prefer America to any of the other alternatives.

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    I'd rather see India as the sole superpower, but lets leave that aside for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    They are still humans.
    I would say that to anyone. Shoot me if you want. This killing is stupid. I wish that people would grow up!

    Blah blah .. I shoot you .. I am stronger than you .. balh blah blah ..

    Stupid .. Idiocy ..
    Just like WAR!!!

    We should learn from the past and not make the same mistakes again ..

    However .. Humans are stupid.. and they will never learn...


    I still believe that erasing that whole region would benefit the world!
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    Well, you could indeed state the whole Israel - Palestine conflict is just one of a some angry kids with weaponry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    Well, you could indeed state the whole Israel - Palestine conflict is just one of a some angry kids with weaponry.
    I have seen enough videos of kids with weapons shooting each other so i am too pissed off.

    I am not anti-Jew but this whole Israel-Palestinian conflict is becoming ridiculous!!

    Stupid humans .... Stupid Humans!!!
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    Welcome to pessimism!

    Every nation has it's agenda. None are out for the good of us all. Is it better to support a nation that you believe is right, or a nation you believe is similar to yourself?
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    Things change.

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    A more accurate representation of the Gaza conflict, Joe Sacco style

    Last edited by Subotan; 10-25-2009 at 18:05. Reason: Beskar complained

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    got it, apreciate his style but it's kinda onesided. Or really. So is Gorazde.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    got it, apreciate his style but it's kinda onesided.
    He does say at the end that he'd like to come back to Israel and do a book about the Israeli side of the conflict, as he didn't have the time or the space in his book to do so. He does get snippets of their side in though, from time to time, and besides, all you have to do is turn on CNN/NBC/FOX in order to get the Israeli side of the story.

    Or really. So is Gorazde.
    Well, Gorazde is about the town of Gorazde, so it's going to be focused on Bosniaks/Croats. He has done a few stories on the Serbs though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    He does say at the end that he'd like to come back to Israel and do a book about the Israeli side of the conflict, as he didn't have the time or the space in his book to do so.
    I think it's pretty obvious. It is really good, but it's not very right imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    He does say at the end that he'd like to come back to Israel and do a book about the Israeli side of the conflict, as he didn't have the time or the space in his book to do so.
    I think it's pretty obvious. It is really good, but it's not very right imho.

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    *Sprouting Propaganda*
    It misses out the part where there was a small loving Palestinian family living on a farm, then Israel comes along and throws them out of their house, bulldozes their house and builds their farm house on top of it while the family is sat in a cardboard box, starving, crammed together like sardines with other ones in the corner, while Israel brings all his friends along to do the same. The Palestinians fight back, bringing some friends, then Israel comes with America, slaughtering them, and with superior firepower and technology from their friends, oppresses them and how Palestinian males take up terrorism and radical measures in order to stop Israel from evicting them from their homes for their out-of-town friends.

    Seriously, get a clue on what is actually going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    *Spouting Propaganda*
    *Adds Insult For Good Measure*

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    How is it propaganda? You post a political cartoon which conviently misses a massive part of the whole situation. I never denied saying Palestinians took up arms and terrorism in response.

    In otherwords, I took your post and added 90% of the story you missed, while it still keeps your 10%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    How is it propaganda?
    Well, it fits the definition thereof more or less as well as mine does.

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    Well, it is officially counter-propaganda. Unfortunately, you replied before I edited it. Doh. So I am going to say I said that bit on the spur of the moment and didn't have time to change it.

    However, as I posted elsewhere before, this is one of those situations where you have conflicting morales.

    On one-hand, you advocate nationalism, pride in your country, etc. In many regards, you should be supporting Palestine, the nation which had another nation placed right ontop of it, then getting kicked out of their own houses and forced to flee to other countries and into refugee camps.

    However, you fully support Israel, because it fits in your your belief and support of American Imperialism in the region, and because the Palestinians are arabs, even though not all of them are Muslims. (There are Jewish and Christian Palestinians too)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Well, it is officially counter-propaganda. Unfortunately, you replied before I edited it. Doh. So I am going to say I said that bit on the spur of the moment and didn't have time to change it.
    No, because it is still propaganda.

    On one-hand, you advocate nationalism, pride in your country, etc. In many regards, you should be supporting Palestine, the nation which had another nation placed right ontop of it, then getting kicked out of their own houses and forced to flee to other countries and into refugee camps.
    I disagree that it had another nation placed right on top of it (if you agree that it did, you must also agree that that nation was there first anyway), they weren't kicked out of their own homes in 1948 when Israel was formed, and they weren't forced to flee to other countries at that time either.

    However, you fully support Israel, because it fits in your your belief and support of American Imperialism in the region
    I don't support American "imperalism", mostly because I disagree that it is truly happening at all.

    and because the Palestinians are arabs, even though not all of them are Muslims. (There are Jewish and Christian Palestinians too)
    I couldn't care less what religion they are. In fact, I am quite concerned about the rapidly decreasing numbers of Palestinian Christians. You are actually ignoring the fact that Israel has quite a lot of Arab citizens.


    I believe Israel is right. However, even if I didn't, I would still support them simply because their national interests coincide with those of my country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    I believe Israel is right. However, even if I didn't, I would still support them simply because their national interests coincide with those of my country.




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    Nobody has commented on my comic :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subotan View Post
    Nobody has commented on my comic :(
    You didn't post it other than a link, so it took me 3 views of the topic trying to find it.

    I liked it. Far more "the real story" than the previously posted one.
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    I thought a punch at the end was a little bit of an understatement, so I went for all out carnage, using my rubbish MS Paint skillz.

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