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    Quote Originally Posted by scottishranger View Post
    Id love to take Sweden John.
    Cheers, that would be great. Could you change my faction I-K?

    Will you be using any methods to try to ensure we ally at least semi-historically, or will we have free reign to ally with whoever we like? I guess religion would be a method to keep historical alliances. Sorry for all the questions, you've just given us a game with little idea how it actually works! I'll wait for our "tome of I-K's gaming genius" if I have any other queries.
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    Default Re: The Thirty Years War

    Austria, Prussia, and (to a lesser extent) Bohemia are the German countries.

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    Prussia aren't included, I was talking more about the smaller states in what makes up modern Germany, so Bohemia and Austria wouldn't really count.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    Austria, Prussia, and (to a lesser extent) Bohemia are the German countries.
    The Kingdom of Prussia did not exist until 1701. Brandenburg-Prussia did exist but militarily played a very small role other than being trampled by the larger countries until Frederick William I came to power around 1640 I believe. He had some amazing victories against Sweden towards the end of the war.

    This area of history is not really my strongpoint, was Germany in this period still a hodgepodge of small states? I guess you haven't included them to make things abit simpler?
    Yes for the most part. There were a few larger ones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichigo View Post
    The Kingdom of Prussia did not exist until 1701. Brandenburg-Prussia did exist but militarily played a very small role other than being trampled by the larger countries until Frederick William I came to power around 1640 I believe. He had some amazing victories against Sweden towards the end of the war.
    Oh well CA did a bloody great job of portraying that...

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    In as Poland-Lituania if at all possible
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    Quote Originally Posted by Double A View Post
    Oh well CA did a bloody great job of portraying that...
    Well it wasn't much different from Brandenburg-Prussia other than in name(Kingdom of Prussia) and the leaders title(went from elector to King)


    john:HRE not a great map though:

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    Cheers Ichigo, I love old maps. Doesn't look quite as fragmented as the start of a game of EU. Is the House of Austria the Hapsburgs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnhughthom View Post
    Cheers Ichigo, I love old maps. Doesn't look quite as fragmented as the start of a game of EU. Is the House of Austria the Hapsburgs?
    There were probably 30+ small German states I think, I'm not sure how many at the start of EU(1453?). Yeah, the Hapsburgs controlled Austria and Spain at this time iirc and probably more.
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    I am happy to bow out of Poland-Lithuansia for Splitpersonality, if can go some other power (however minor it is)
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    Scottishranger changed from the Netherlands, they could be an interesting choice Beskar.

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    Thank you beskar, that is rather noble of you.
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    Would be honoured to play as some worthless nation like Iceland

    Split, the HRE in EUIII is less fragmented that it actually was. The game leaves out quite a bit of the unruly fiefs that might have considered themselves independant, several loose confederations counting as a faction, and other game streamliners.
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    Currently Signed Up Players:
    Cultured Drizzt fan (England)
    Subotan (France)
    Greyblades (Spain)
    johnhughtom (Savoy)
    Double A (Turkey)
    Ichigo (Austria)
    SSNeoperestroika (Transylvania)
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    spL1tp3r50naL1ty (Poland-Lithuania)
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    Beskar (Netherlands?)
    Correct?
    AVSM, since there is no Iceland then I gave you Denmark. Is that OK?
    Beskar, I gave you Netherlands. You're OK with that?

    This area of history is not really my strongpoint, was Germany in this period still a hodgepodge of small states? I guess you haven't included them to make things abit simpler?
    You are right. There were too many small states. To make things simple(for myself) I divided Germany into Southern and Northern part. It's not historical but (don't want to sound like CA) sometimes gameplay balance is more important. There are other historical inaccuracies as well but my excuse is that I am not multi-million dollar game developer and most certainly I am not a computer.

    Will you be using any methods to try to ensure we ally at least semi-historically, or will we have free reign to ally with whoever we like? I guess religion would be a method to keep historical alliances. Sorry for all the questions, you've just given us a game with little idea how it actually works! I'll wait for our "tome of I-K's gaming genius" if I have any other queries.
    Yes, You can ally yourself to whoever You want. Diplomacy is totally on the hands of players.

    About religion...
    I have 4 religions in game: Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Islam.
    Protestants include Calvinists, Lutherans etc. Why? Check that "I am not a computer" part above.
    If hexes with different religions share border then public order will be reduced. So, it's in the interest of the player to keep regions in the same faith.
    There are several ways for conversion: have army present on the hex you want to convert(inexpensive way), use money to convert regions(expensive way) or own a regions with certain bonuses.

    And I have nothing against You asking these questions! Better ask them now than on turn 40 or something

    Since only Bohemia is open I will send PM's with maps and stuff tomorrow. Today I have some friends coming by and I don't have much time for this. Hint:

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    I can be Netherlands, no problems there.

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    Just out of interest what will you be doing about empires? Spain at this time has afew colonies in the amreicas shipping back gold, is that going to be factored in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Just out of interest what will you be doing about empires? Spain at this time has afew colonies in the amreicas shipping back gold, is that going to be factored in?
    There is a feature called "Colonial Taxes" where you can earn a lot of money(about as much as France gets from taxes in 2 turns). However, this needs 1) port; 2) transport ship; 3) ship must be in one of the Atlantic Ocean region; 4) can be used once per Year (2 turns). There is always the possibility that someone attacks your ship and takes the money or ship is destroyed by storms...

    Kingdoms who don't have this feature: Turkey, Muscovy, Poland, Transylvania.

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    So will the countries who allready have existing colonies start out with this setup?
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    Not all but some.

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    But since Russia and Turkey are featured in AOE III, shouldn't we be included as well?



    There aren't any other Islamic factions, right? So can I call Jihads?

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    As far as I can remember there were no major war between western and muslim nations. So, short - no you can't call jihads.[Edit: Since you are the only muslim nation in this game]
    However, you can have many and many revolts against your power etc.
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 10-24-2009 at 20:33.

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    Eek! I didn't want a major power. Can I be Bohemia then?
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    You will start the game on Turn 2 in that case.

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    Alright, fine by me. I just fear that I won't be active enough to play as leading nation.
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    They make deli slices of frozen pepsi now? Awesome!
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    Uhh, I guess I won't have pepsi then. Do you have change for a twenty?
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    Quote Originally Posted by A Very Super Market View Post
    Alright, fine by me. I just fear that I won't be active enough to play as leading nation.
    You'll be dead/destroyed in few turns if history is repeated!

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    Ibn Khaldun do you think it would be a good idea to set up afew Quick topic pages for the various alliances and states like, say, the hapsburg states or one for the holy roman empire members?
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    Of course you can set up these pages!
    Diplomatic side in this game is totally in the hands of the players!
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 10-24-2009 at 21:50.

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    Would you want the page adresses should we make them?
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    Who wants an alliance with the Muslims?

    Hey are you going to color-code the map to show us who has what?
    Last edited by Double A; 10-24-2009 at 22:18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades
    Would you want the page adresses should we make them?
    Yes.. this should help both me(with write-ups) and you(with questions).

    Quote Originally Posted by Double A
    Hey are you going to color-code the map to show us who has what?
    Yes.. That will be the map where you move your armies and what the other kingdoms can see.
    Edit: And I will post that map before I send PM's!
    Last edited by Ibn-Khaldun; 10-24-2009 at 22:24.

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