Russian lies about Poland

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

In all fairness, Krook does have a very strong point about Russian atrocities committed in Poland, yet it is true he is ignoring that Poles committed any crimes (somewhat ironically).

[Meneldil]

In all fairness, Krook does have a very strong point about Russian atrocities committed in Poland, yet it is true he is ignoring that Poles committed any crimes (somewhat ironically).

What point? I see no point here, only a "ZOMG, EVIL RUSSIANS ARE BAD, THEY KILLED INNOCENT POLES" rant.

He's not even trying to discuss the way both armies behaved. He's just saying that Russian historians are - once again - conspirating against Poland. No argument, no nothing. He's just not willing to discuss anything at all. He throws his made-up facts in our faces (as if we could do anything about it), and then gets mad when people disagree.

That's what Krook has been doing since the very first time he posted on this forum.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

What point? I see no point here, only a "ZOMG, EVIL RUSSIANS ARE BAD, THEY KILLED INNOCENT POLES" rant.

Which is true, they did kill innocent Poles, and were considerably more brutal than vice-versa - though Krook should acknowledge that Poles killed civilians as well.

He's just saying that Russian historians are - once again - conspirating against Poland.

They aren't conspiring against Poland, so to speak, but I wouldn't disagree that there is some bias against Poland in Russia.

That's what Krook has been doing since the very first time he posted on this forum.

I'm German, and am therefore often the target of these rants. I am well aware.

[Kralizec]

I don't have any sources at hand, but I've read of the Katyn massacre as well. The Soviets executed thousands of educated Poles under the pretext that they had ties to the military - wich pretty much everyone had due to conscription. Gorbachov admitted the crime almost 60 years after the fact.

EDIT: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4102967.stm

to clarify, this is different from maltreating Prisoners of War. Most of the Katyn victims were rounded up after the Soviets started occupying Poland.

[CBR]

I let this thread live for a while hoping it would turn into something better than what I expected. But I don't see any good coming out of it.

If this is about some current day Russian bias or "lies" to change history then it really belongs in the Backroom. But as Krook did not manage to provide just one link to what on earth it was about, I'll save my fellow moderators in the Backroom from having to deal with this tirade.

*closed*