Nut is cracked by herb.

[InsaneApache]

Talk about shooting the messanger!

The Government's drugs tsar was forced to resign last night for stating his view that cannabis, ecstasy and LSD were less harmful than the legal drugs tobacco and alcohol.


The Home Secretary Alan Johnson asked Professor David Nutt to resign as chairman of the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD), saying he had "lost confidence" in his ability to give impartial advice.

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-st...s-1812255.html

Yet again our thicko politicians ignore sensible advice just to keep on the good side of the blue rinse brigade. The issue of prohibition on drugs has been shown to be idiotic. If it's too big a leap to de-criminalise hard drugs, at least give some proper consideration to the effect of criminalising soft drugs. The money saved on policing alone would buy an aircraft carrier. Or a bank.

[Fragony]

cannabis, ecstasy and LSD can fry your brains, it is not harmless people really ought to stop pretending it is, a little bit of ecstasy is hardly a glass of wine. Study's showing that it is can usually tracked back to people with a history of activism.

[ICantSpellDawg]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[Fisherking]

What ever.

It is more an emotional issue than one where logic, science, or common sense is of use.

However, I have never heard of tobacco intoxication, have you?

[Reverend Joe]

cannabis, ecstasy and LSD can fry your brains

So can alcohol with a comparative level of abuse. Ever met a hardcore alcoholic? They're completely nuts/semi-retarded, even when they're sober.

[Fragony]

So can alcohol with a comparative level of abuse. Ever met a hardcore alcoholic? They're completely nuts/semi-retarded, even when they're sober.

Try a recreational user of xtc. It just isn't true it is not harmless.

[Ice]

cannabis, ecstasy and LSD can fry your brains, it is not harmless people really ought to stop pretending it is, a little bit of ecstasy is hardly a glass of wine. Study's showing that it is can usually tracked back to people with a history of activism.

Fragony, cannabis does not fry your brain if you have half a brain. As long as you aren't baked before important events/work that you need to get done, you are fine. If you feel a little spacey, lay off the cannabis for a couple days and everything reverts back to normal.

X and LSD I'd agree with.

[Fragony]

Stranger things have happened. How are you going to do it without having to make a point out of it. Keep it as it is much better, why mess with the balance

[Ice]

Stranger things have happened. How are you going to do it without having to make a point out of it. Keep it as it is much better, why mess with the balance

I'm not quite sure I follow.

[LittleGrizzly]

Once again when the issue of drugs comes up all logic sense and reason must be tossed aside by the goverment in order to not confront the horror of legalising what they have turned into a monster...


The best reason to keep cannabis on the list is to keep commercial hemp from being grown.

In the same way that prohibition ended the threat of alcohol as fuel to the oil industry. Making cannabis illegal was a wind fall (engineered and promoted) to the timber industry.

I don’t think it represents a dire threat to humanity but legal hemp would make paper products a lot cheaper.

Watched a documentary on this some time ago, some big American timber or paper tycoon basically bought his way into it. Does this mean that the other reason for the law, the targetting of chinese and mexican immigrants was an excuse or like a bonus effect of the prohibition ?

Just psychosis then?

Yes to which only a small percentage are suspectible... a far far smaller percentage than we get off the idiotic things that alcohol causes everyday (especially with our drinking culture) If an end to prohibition caused only a 1/10 of the idiots who go out drinking and causing problems to chill out and have a smoke instead. Infact just by having marijuana as a legal alternative to alcohol you would probably save more on people's state of mind alone, let alone the countless other problems that alcohol causes that would be lessened...

The Italics are unintentional I can't deselect them in quick reply...

[Fragony]

I'm not quite sure I follow.

It is available you can buy it, I think it´s better to look the other way once in a while than legalize it, it has become too hot of an item for both sides. You just know that people are going to push the limits of what is acceptable it is going to be a mess. So many silly old laws that aren´t enforced anymore, I heard you can be arrested for not wearing your sabre if you are in the British military.

[Aemilius Paulus]

No, actually, LSD is the least harmful of them all and the vast majority of scientists, especially chemists protested its classification as a narcotic because it is not quite so. LSD has no noted harmful, long term physical side-effects. Purely psychological. Unlike cannabis, which has a load of possible outcomes, although all are generally mild. Now, I have no idea why he approved of MDMA though... Ecstasy is a dangerous drug that one can grow addicted to and that can result in a deadly overdose, although it does not compare with "hard" drugs.

While at the same time the vast majority of addiction to marijuana is merely psychological, not physical and the possibility of overdose is nearly impossible due to the vast amount one has to consume. Overdosing on water is much easier than with cannabis. And no one has even observed such occurrence as an overdose of LSD.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I prefer the "Nutt Sacked" headline. You know it's the way he wanted to go.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

No, actually, LSD is the least harmful of them all and the vast majority of scientists, especially chemists protested its classification as a narcotic because it is not quite so. LSD has no noted harmful, long term physical side-effects. Purely psychological.

The psychological effects are the ones a user of LSD should be really concerned about. Nonetheless, I'd like to see some conclusive and neutral studies on marijuana use so that a proper decision can finally be made.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Nonetheless, I'd like to see some conclusive and neutral studies on marijuana use so that a proper decision can finally be made.

I am certain there are, but as with everything, you have so much contradictory information, it is difficult to believe any side...

[naut]

and the possibility of overdose is nearly impossible due to the vast amount one has to consume. Overdosing on water is much easier than with cannabis. And no one has even observed such occurrence as an overdose of LSD.

To overdose on weed you have to smoke 1500 joints in twenty minutes. I dare anyone to try.

And to get psychological issues, two conditions have to be fulfilled:

a) a predisposition to mental problems
b) consume an absolutely ridiculous amount

[AlexanderSextus]

cannabis, ecstasy and LSD can fry your brains, it is not harmless people really ought to stop pretending it is, a little bit of ecstasy is hardly a glass of wine. Study's showing that it is can usually tracked back to people with a history of activism.

Cannabis does not cause brain damage.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Cannabis does not cause brain damage.

Just psychosis then?

[Rhyfelwyr]

Cannabis seems like the odd on out on his list with ecstacy and LSD alongside it.

I only know what I was taught at school, but doesn't ecstacy cause serious physical side effects, sometimes killing poeple pretty quickly? And LSD causes serious halluciations, such as a guy trying to saw off his arm because he thought it was a snake?

Cannabis, on the other hand, I would not think is so harmful.

[Fisherking]

The best reason to keep cannabis on the list is to keep commercial hemp from being grown.

In the same way that prohibition ended the threat of alcohol as fuel to the oil industry. Making cannabis illegal was a wind fall (engineered and promoted) to the timber industry.

I don’t think it represents a dire threat to humanity but legal hemp would make paper products a lot cheaper.

[InsaneApache]

Cannabis seems like the odd on out on his list with ecstacy and LSD alongside it.

I only know what I was taught at school, but doesn't ecstacy tobacco cause serious physical side effects, sometimes killing poeple pretty quickly? And LSD alcohol causes serious halluciations, such as a guy trying to saw off his arm because he thought it was a snake?

Cannabis masturbation, on the other hand, I would not think is so harmful.

Fixed.

[AlexanderSextus]

Just psychosis then?

There is only a risk of psychosis if you smoke an extremely unreasonable amount on a regular basis.

I asked my doctor about this and he said smoking even 3 grams a day will not give any significant risk.