The Red Phoenix [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

The previous round, with commentary and analysis.

Yes, you may safely skip reading the spoiler. That's showing my work.

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Vote: Yaseikhaan

Because I decided it would be less work to just picks a candidate and sticks with the candidate.

I think so too

Vote: Whiteeyes:D

Why so quiet?

Yaseikhaan: 1
White_Eyes: 1

Interesting reaction.

I think Beskar is not playing this game...

I forgot to check back if the phase had been extended and missed the voting on Day1

Vote: White_eyes for now... white_eyes has been active in the gameroom... i will change my vote him if he shows up or if we get any useful leads

atheotes would seem to be innocent given certain things about his final vote this round.

I shall vote:Jooray then to elicit a response.

Doesn't appear to be the correct vote. Not sure if that indicates guilt or not.

Yaseikhaan: 1
White_eyes: 2
Joooray: 1

Vote: FactionHeir to elicit a response.

Perhaps this vote is a distancing tactic.... perhaps not. I could be reading too much into this.

I thought WE was active because he did some night actions in "the mansion" game. the host posted there saying he has not submitted orders in quite some time. So in my mind he is a townie.

unvote, vote:abstain

Yaseikhaan: 1
W_E: 1
Joooray: 1
FactionHeir: 1

Khaan is not in danger yet.

As I said before, I'm sorry I was inactive the last day phase, real life got a hold on me. Promise to be better from this point on.

I don't think white_eyes is such a good choice, I send him a pm in another mafia game quite some time ago and he has yet to read it, so I suspect he's going to be WoZJed this night anyway.

Anyway, Vote: khaan. Come on, Atpg pressures you with one vote and all you do is a pressure vote yourself. You can do better than that!

Khaan: 2

W_E: 1
Joooray: 1
FH: 1

NOW we see Khaan in danger. What's the reaction?

vote: atheotes

Obviously the traitor.

Curious... atheotes turns out to be pretty darn innocent, given who he lynched voluntarily.


Khaan: 2

W_E: 1
Joooray: 1
FH: 1
atheotes: 1

Really?

Interesting response... he's questioning that bad vote before it is known to be bad vote, while Khaan is under pressure. Not sure what to make of it.

He is too undecisive, unwilling to take risk, trying to appease. I would happy die for Cao Cao to protect his honour.

Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice.

i agree vote:atheotes

Khaan: 2
atheotes: 2

W_E: 1
Joooray: 1
FH: 1

hmm...care to explain why i took my vote of White_eyes when he was the lynch candidate?

Indeed.

Fools speak while the Wise listen.

FoS: Sprig

Only post since joining the game and its "i agree + vote"

Hmmm.

Yes, of course you're going to argue that you're a bog-standard townie. No use arguing anything else because it'll either get you murdered or lynched. Therefore, I'd say your reasoning is not correct and only there to mislead us.

vote: Beskar

Hmmm.

Yeah, just noticed that Zain posted it too.

Unvote; Whiteeyes
Vote: Joooray

Khaan: 2
atheotes: 2
Joooray: 2

FH: 1

Eeeeenteresting.

Random vote to provoke discussion.

His explanation for voting Joooray...

Of course, if he wanted to save Khaan he might have voted for atheotes.





In summary, based on that last voting round, here are some people I find having a halo of innocence-

1. Askthepizzaguy (Of course!)
2. Joooray (placed his vote on Khaan early, didn't move it)
3. atheotes (lynching vote)

Now, Death is Yonder had me wondering.... his vote on White_eyes almost seemed like a reaction to my voting for Khaan. Then his vote for Joooray seemed like he was desperate to find another patsy. But, I don't know if that holds up. He could have saved Khaan by voting for atheotes. I think that deserves a one-round reprieve.

4. Death is Yonder

Yes, he's guilty. Xu Shu was the historical traitor.

Helpful, but no vote in previous round?

Excellent choice on the lynch guys! Nicely done, Good thing my lynch choice didn't go through then, I was hoping that random votes would cause more flurry of discussion, but I suppose random voting and sticking to it from day one works too

I'm looking for someone to blame besides you, but you keep sucking me back in.

I'm not sure, it could be just that FactionHeir is a victim of ill circumstance, perhaps he didn't want to get involved in a bandwagon, maybe cautious pro-town, or cautious mafia, but its all really uncertain.

Atheotes is highly unlikely to be mafia, but its still possible, but this path has a lot of WIFOM, so lets not go into there.

Please stop saying scummy things. I want to believe you're innocent. Stop stop stop.


Alive:

Death is yonder- voted
Subotan- W_E was inactive
A Very Super Market- didn't vote
atheotes- voted well
Beskar- voted
spL1tp3r50naL1ty- "Couldn't get into his role", gave it up to Yaropolk
Joooray- voted well
Sprig- voted
AskthePizzaguy- voted well
FactionHeir- voted
Paulus Tertius- voted

5. spL1tp3r50naL1ty

Does anyone give up a mafia role because they can't get into it?

vote: atheotes

Obviously the traitor.

Perhaps the scummiest vote all round.

Khaan had two votes, and Beskar seems like he wants to get a bandwagon on atheotes, the guy who ends up capping a mafia. Not only seems like a nervous reaction, but the vote itself seems dead wrong to me. If atheotes is mafia he's driven a screwdriver into my brain.

My finger of suspicion lands squarely on Beskar, who I presently consider to be the most likely to be mafia given the previous round's activity.

After that, you might look to Subotan, who replaced White_Eyes and therefore I can't get a reading off of it. AVSM and Paulus both had the chance to spare Khaan and didn't, and Paulus voted for Beskar. Which was never recorded by the game host. Beskar is my top suspect at the moment, so I consider this a good vote. Personally, I'm not a fan of not voting. I'm so tempted to go with AVSM, but I think perhaps the reason Khaan got destroyed so soon was... maybe... White_Eyes not being there to spare him. If it isn't Beskar, it could be White_Eyes/Subotan.

Third place, I might pick AVSM for not voting, personal preference. However, that's almost a good thing considering he could have saved khaan. And I might be right regarding Beskar or Subotan. But maybe not AVSM.... I don't know. Yaseikhaan likes the tactic of voting his partner, he's done it quite a bit IIRC. I can't really pick my third suspect at this point, even though Death is yonder is driving me absolutely insane with his posts... they smell so bad but they don't mesh with his voting pattern. Stop being so scummy!

Sprig's vote on atheotes puts him in top contention, but he could have voted for joooray.

FOS:

1. Beskar
2. Subotan

[Death is yonder]

Please stop saying scummy things. I want to believe you're innocent. Stop stop stop.

Sorry then, I'll just stay more silent and be the usual attentive DiY popping in here and there when I'm needed only

Short, silent, terse.

Good enough?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Maybe.

Maybe I'm wrong about Beskar, too. I dunno he gave me a good defense. But I'm not totally convinced.

I'll bump Subotan up to my top suspect.

FOS:

1. Subotan

[Beskar]

My name looks like slang for the male member and the description doesn't help the case.

I think Jolt dislikes me.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I am probably going to die tonight anyway, I am Liu Ye, Inspector of the Han Army.

I won't say what ability I have.

[Beskar]

It gets worse, I just wikipedia'd the name, my guys nickname is "Boning". Why oh why....

[White_eyes:D]

I am probably going to die tonight anyway, I am Liu Ye, Inspector of the Han Army.

I won't say what ability I have.

Dead giveaway.... If I was Mafia....your kill order would have just been sent in

[A Very Super Market]

I think Beskar is innocent. His role is pretty obscure. It suffices for now.

I didn't vote due to my inherent lurkiness. Also, I forgot. Also, I'm innocent. Farewell.

[Beskar]

My guy is at least on wikipedia, even though it was very limited and spoke about how his courtsey name was "Boning".

It gets worse, he was part of the Kingdom of Wei.

Bad enough getting a name that sounds like a male member, a description that sounds like a male member, a nickname of a male member, and part of a male member kingdom.

Does it get worse?!?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Dead giveaway.... If I was Mafia....your kill order would have just been sent in

Oh noes!