Dragon Age: Origins gameplay and discussion thread.

**Lemur** · 01-23-2010, 23:24

Originally Posted by Scienter

I loved that [Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines]! It's a shame they didn't make more. [...] Or did the company who made it go under?

That would be Troika Games, and it's thoroughly deceased. Shame really, since both Arcanum and VtM:Bloodlines had the potential to be true groundbreakers, were they not rushed, buggy, etc.

There's great fan-based mods and patches for VtM:Bloodlines.

**Xiahou** · 01-25-2010, 03:42

Originally Posted by Lemur

That would be Troika Games, and it's thoroughly deceased. Shame really, since both Arcanum and VtM:Bloodlines had the potential to be true groundbreakers, were they not rushed, buggy, etc.

There's great fan-based mods and patches for VtM:Bloodlines.

I'm apparently the only person on the planet who found the un-modded, vanilla Bloodlines to be completely playable. A couple glitches, a few CTDs, sure. But, it was never anything close to the unplayable bug-ridden mess most people tell me it was.

I won the game 3x without ever feeling the need for fan-made content or patches.

**DisruptorX** · 01-25-2010, 03:53

Originally Posted by Xiahou

I'm apparently the only person on the planet who found the un-modded, vanilla Bloodlines to be completely playable. A couple glitches, a few CTDs, sure. But, it was never anything close to the unplayable bug-ridden mess most people tell me it was.

I won the game 3x without ever feeling the need for fan-made content or patches.

No, the bugginess is extremely overstated. Its no more buggy than say Fallout 2. Actually, its less buggy.

**frogbeastegg** · 01-25-2010, 18:32

Originally Posted by Xiahou

I'm apparently the only person on the planet who found the un-modded, vanilla Bloodlines to be completely playable. A couple glitches, a few CTDs, sure. But, it was never anything close to the unplayable bug-ridden mess most people tell me it was.

I won the game 3x without ever feeling the need for fan-made content or patches.

I played through the game at release with no patches, and other than a few minor glitches and some broken triggers in side quests it was all ok. The source engine was a bigger problem - it always makes me terribly motion sick.

**Ironside** · 01-25-2010, 19:43

I suspect most of the bug issue was the one that could crash your game so you couldn't pass that point, thus being unable to finish the game normally. Then we also have that door that was almost impossible to open or when your computer changes into a furnature.

Still love that game and malkivian playthrough is still among the funniest games ever imho.

"Police officials has gone on record saying: Don't worry that crazy bastard will save him."
"One witness stated that the exchange was all like pow, pow, ah take that, oh you got me, take that, blam, aiee."
Or telling Jack about his plan... Without knowing it.
Among the easier to find we have the pet turtle.

**Meneldil** · 02-04-2010, 01:11

Return to Ostagar has been released, finally.

The pros:
- Some new lore (regarding Cailan and Celene, the orlesian Empress)
- Some new banters (mostly with Wynne, Alistair, Loghain and occasionally Dog)
- It's only 3€

The cons:
- A shameless rehash of Ostagar, with a snow texture and some Darkspawn stuff. There's only one new zone.
- A new plate armor set. Huho, as if the game wasn't already filled with those. During my warrior playthrough, all 4 plate wearing characters had a full set, and I still had 2 or 3 more in my inventory, while I couldn't get any leather or cloth set.
- Cailan's armur is utterly useless. It's made for tanking, but requires a huge amount of strenght that no tank characters is going to reach at any time. Who the hell took care of the itemization?
- The new zones are all corridor-ish, even Ostagar camp.

All in all, I'm kind of disappointed. The lore ain't that exciting. The fights are overly easy. The loot is useless. Not a single new texture or stuff (unlike Stone Prisonner). Oh well. For 3€ I guess I shouldn't have expected anything better.

**Krusader** · 02-04-2010, 01:57

Originally Posted by Meneldil

Return to Ostagar has been released, finally.

The pros:
- Some new lore (regarding Cailan and Celene, the orlesian Empress)
- Some new banters (mostly with Wynne, Alistair, Loghain and occasionally Dog)
- It's only 3€

The cons:
- A shameless rehash of Ostagar, with a snow texture and some Darkspawn stuff. There's only one new zone.
- A new plate armor set. Huho, as if the game wasn't already filled with those. During my warrior playthrough, all 4 plate wearing characters had a full set, and I still had 2 or 3 more in my inventory, while I couldn't get any leather or cloth set.
- Cailan's armur is utterly useless. It's made for tanking, but requires a huge amount of strenght that no tank characters is going to reach at any time. Who the hell took care of the itemization?
- The new zones are all corridor-ish, even Ostagar camp.

All in all, I'm kind of disappointed. The lore ain't that exciting. The fights are overly easy. The loot is useless. Not a single new texture or stuff (unlike Stone Prisonner). Oh well. For 3€ I guess I shouldn't have expected anything better.

I'll echo that. Took me 20 minutes with listening to dialogue and team-banter.

3 € x 10 = 30 € which is the price of the next Dragon Age expansion.
So that means 20 minutes x 10 then doesn't it? A little over 3 hours of game time in the expansion perhaps?

**Meneldil** · 02-04-2010, 08:15

This is why DLC are fundamentaly terribad. They can argue about the low prices as much as they want ('it's not even the price of a big mac, come on!'), we're still being ripped off. Poorly designed content that takes 20 minutes and doesn't really add anything to the game = fail.