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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr View Post
    It is not a case of me interpreting anything, it is about God telling me what I need to know. You say all I have is words from other humans, but that's from an atheist point of view - you don't factor in the whole spiritual regeneration/born again thing we have in Christianity.
    Did Christ wrote the things you believe in or was it written by humans?

    I think it's the latter.

    Considering the many "types" of Christians, what was written down, is not clear enough, as it leaves room for interpretation.

    Each "type" of Christian follows the interpretation of the group he belongs to. Each one of those groups are interpreting what was written down by imperfect human beings, who might have given their own interpretation while writing it down.

    I respect your belief and no humble Christian should challenge it.

    In fact, I think that what you believe is what you should believe; I won't argue about that. I'm tolerant.

    What I do dislike, is the fact that a lot of Christians say that their version is the only correct one, which, to me, contradicts with the "humble before God" part.

    We, as humans, can only interprete and try to understand, but we cannot say that our version is true and all others are wrong, because that would be putting words in Gods' mouth.

    Thinking that you know what Gods' message was and all those who disagree are mistaken, is typical human. Just like vanity and pride, which are sins.

    Maybe you are right, but it's possible the other believers are right as well. Or maybe you're all wrong. Only God knows and, humble as you are, that is something you should recognise and accept

    Most Christians are not humble enough when it comes to Gods' message.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres View Post
    Did Christ wrote the things you believe in or was it written by humans?

    I think it's the latter.

    Considering the many "types" of Christians, what was written down, is not clear enough, as it leaves room for interpretation.

    Each "type" of Christian follows the interpretation of the group he belongs to. Each one of those groups are interpreting what was written down by imperfect human beings, who might have given their own interpretation while writing it down.

    I respect your belief and no humble Christian should challenge it.

    In fact, I think that what you believe is what you should believe; I won't argue about that. I'm tolerant.

    What I do dislike, is the fact that a lot of Christians say that their version is the only correct one, which, to me, contradicts with the "humble before God" part.

    We, as humans, can only interprete and try to understand, but we cannot say that our version is true and all others are wrong, because that would be putting words in Gods' mouth.

    Thinking that you know what Gods' message was and all those who disagree are mistaken, is typical human. Just like vanity and pride, which are sins.

    Maybe you are right, but it's possible the other believers are right as well. Or maybe you're all wrong. Only God knows and, humble as you are, that is something you should recognise and accept
    Augustine said something about this, possinbly in "The City of God", roughly translated as:
    It should not be said that God is ineffable, because then something is said [about God] so that it is better not to say He is ineffable, however something must be said and so this contradiction should be passed over in silence.
    A Christian has not only a right, but a responsibility, to argue his or her beliefs, but at the same time to be open to alternative arguements. You are correct that to presume to know the truth is arrogant. However, to know part of the truth and to not present it to your brothers and sisters is much, much, worse because it is selfish.
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