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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I know the mans thoughts.

    So what you are saying is you don't have to agree with the laws as long as you get a timely replacement?

    That wouldn't fly in sales and it doesn't fly for government. Public officals should carry out the laws of the land not cherrypick the ones they like.

    What do you mean it wouldnt fly in sales? Do a good enough job all-around and a decent boss will let you abstain from certain sales if you find them personally offensive. I used to tell my bosses that I wouldn't sell certain products because I didn't like them all the time. In fact, selling Movados I would pass them along to other sales reps, because I didn't want customers coming back and blaming me when their watch crapped out in 3 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    What do you mean it wouldnt fly in sales? Do a good enough job all-around and a decent boss will let you abstain from certain sales if you find them personally offensive. I used to tell my bosses that I wouldn't sell certain products because I didn't like them all the time. In fact, selling Movados I would pass them along to other sales reps, because I didn't want customers coming back and blaming me when their watch crapped out in 3 years.
    If an interacial couple walked into a store and you said "I cannot in good conscience perform this sale, but I have arranged for an official who is qualified and willing to do so to be here at the appointed time"

    They would walkout and youwould get fired.

    This man is an old style racist and that's it. This is the same schtick we've seen for years, it's getting old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    If an interacial couple walked into a store and you said "I cannot in good conscience perform this sale, but I have arranged for an official who is qualified and willing to do so to be here at the appointed time"

    They would walkout and youwould get fired.

    This man is an old style racist and that's it. This is the same schtick we've seen for years, it's getting old.

    People shouldn't be fired for that. It's just stupid, not grounds for firing. If an employee ridiculed someone based on their ethnicity that would be fireable, but not refusing service. If an Islamic woman refuses to sell goods to a man based on her beleifs, should she be fired? Or should she instead be allowed to help women?

    Obviously if your abstentations begin to outnumber your usefullness firing is an option, but not because of the cause of the odd instance.

    Stop trying to make everyone think the same way and accept the same things. Support conscience clauses for whatever reason.

    This is a case of the thought police coming to get you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    People shouldn't be fired for that. It's just stupid, not grounds for firing. If an employee ridiculed someone based on their ethnicity that would be fireable, but not refusing service. If an Islamic woman refuses to sell goods to a man based on her beleifs, should she be fired? Or should she instead be allowed to help women?

    Obviously if your abstentations begin to outnumber your usefullness you should be fired, but not because of the cause of the instance.

    Stop trying to make everyone think the same way and accept the same things. Support conscience clauses for whatever reason.

    This is a case of the thought police coming to get you.
    My grocery store would fire someone if they refused to check out someone due to race.

    I'm not forcing anyone to do anything, you're just being obtuse for the sake of obtuse.

    The goverenment should not employee people who discrimante based on race. The man can live his life any way he pleases but he shouldn't be employeed by a governement that has "justice for all".

    Besides 1984 refrences are the last bastion of a weak mind.
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    Default Re: US Judge Selects Work based on Clients Race

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    People shouldn't be fired for that. It's just stupid, not grounds for firing. If an employee ridiculed someone based on their ethnicity that would be fireable, but not refusing service. If an Islamic woman refuses to sell goods to a man based on her beleifs, should she be fired?
    By the hells, yes she should!!

    That's a clear case of "not doing the job for which you're hired". And if you're not doing the job your boss hired you for, of course he should be able to fire you, anything else is ridiculous.
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    Should have been fired on the spot, who the hell does he think he is.

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    Wow, between that and the couple getting 6 months for killing their children, I'm left wondering. Is there any state of law in America, or is any public servant allowed to do whatever comes to his mind according to his own petty beliefs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meneldil View Post
    Wow, between that and the couple getting 6 months for killing their children, I'm left wondering. Is there any state of law in America, or is any public servant allowed to do whatever comes to his mind according to his own petty beliefs?
    THOUGHT POLICE!

    Who needs laws? We have the constitution! That's all we need....well my interpatation of it, your interpatation is WRONG
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    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Default Re: US Judge Selects Work based on Clients Race

    If it's against the man's conscience to marry interracial couples, he shouldn't have picked a job that makes it his obligation to do so.

    It would be slightly different if gay marriage were to be legalised and preople who had been doing this job for years were uncomfortable with it.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...on/7499248.stm
    Anybody know if that decision was appealed against?

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