Child dies due to faith healing; parents get 6 months of jail time

**HoreTore** · 11-08-2009, 01:50

Originally Posted by ajaxfetish

And I didn't see Kralizec say anything about supporting it.

Ajax

....and at that, you are correct.

It seems I've been reading things quicker than I should've.... Anyway, I blame the swine flu.

yes, I actually do have it.... otherwise I would've been at work now instead of posting here

**InsaneApache** · 11-08-2009, 11:05

You can post with the flu?

Blimey when I had it last christmas I couldn't move off the couch for 4 days. Even peed in a bucket. I'm impressed at your indefatigability.

**HoreTore** · 11-09-2009, 02:17

Originally Posted by InsaneApache

You can post with the flu?

Blimey when I had it last christmas I couldn't move off the couch for 4 days. Even peed in a bucket. I'm impressed at your indefatigability.

Ah, but you don't have my Mighty Viking constitution!

The hard part(40 in fever) lasted 12 hours before I killed it with painkillers.... The rest of the time, like now, I'm walking about as I please. Inside my apartment, that is... I've gotten a hard reminder that I'm sick every time I've walked the 50 meters to the postbox and picked up the newspaper in the morning these days.... Those 50 meters are a killer.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 11-09-2009, 02:18

What would people's thoughts be on a similar situation where the parents counted on homeopathy to heal their child instead of taking them to a hospital?

CR

**Kralizec** · 11-09-2009, 03:12

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

What would people's thoughts be on a similar situation where the parents counted on homeopathy to heal their child instead of taking them to a hospital?

CR

The same for me.
If a couple kills one of their children by putting their faith in quasi-science or faith healing, they should be put in jail.

What usually makes these cases hard to decide is when they have other children as well. I don't think that locking both parents away for multiple years and putting the rest of the children in foster care would be the ideal solution in most cases.

**miotas** · 11-09-2009, 04:18

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

What would people's thoughts be on a similar situation where the parents counted on homeopathy to heal their child instead of taking them to a hospital?

CR

There was a case here in australia about 6 months back http://www.smh.com.au/national/paren...0605-bxvx.html

I say it's the same, I would have nothing against them trying it, but if it doesn't seem to be working then they should go straight to the doctors.

**HoreTore** · 11-09-2009, 14:38

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

What would people's thoughts be on a similar situation where the parents counted on homeopathy to heal their child instead of taking them to a hospital?

CR

Why on earth would that change anything at all? You think this is just some crusade on "the poor christians"...?

Vegans starving their kid, christians killing it by not taking it to a hospital, I don't care. I doesn't matter what your beliefs are, if they caused the death of your kid, then you're a murderer in my opinion.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-09-2009, 15:57

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Why on earth would that change anything at all? You think this is just some crusade on "the poor christians"...?

Vegans starving their kid, christians killing it by not taking it to a hospital, I don't care. I doesn't matter what your beliefs are, if they caused the death of your kid, then you're a murderer in my opinion.

What if they died because of the invasiveness of "modern medicine"? That sort of perspective cuts both ways.

**miotas** · 11-09-2009, 16:01

If it was something incurable like some form of cancer, then it would be a different story since we know of nothing that can save them, so try anything in the hopes that it may work, but when we are talking ******* diabetes then it is an entirely different matter.

**HoreTore** · 11-10-2009, 00:15

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

What if they died because of the invasiveness of "modern medicine"? That sort of perspective cuts both ways.

This kid would never have died if she was taken to a hospital; diabetes is easily treatable.

Anyway, I don't understand your question. Do you believe that because doctors occasionally makes mistakes and those mistakes result in deaths, that doctors are unimportant and we should throw away modern medicine...?

Find some statistics on life expectancy during the times of "pray the ill away" and compare them with those we have now.

**Crazed Rabbit** · 11-10-2009, 00:13

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Why on earth would that change anything at all? You think this is just some crusade on "the poor christians"...?

Vegans starving their kid, christians killing it by not taking it to a hospital, I don't care. I doesn't matter what your beliefs are, if they caused the death of your kid, then you're a murderer in my opinion.

So if you bring your kids to a hospital, the doctors perform a procedure they say is necessary, and that procedure ends up killing the child, then you're guilty of murder?

CR

**A Very Super Market** · 11-10-2009, 03:53

Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit

So if you bring your kids to a hospital, the doctors perform a procedure they say is necessary, and that procedure ends up killing the child, then you're guilty of murder?

CR

You build a house on unstable ground. You try and add more supports to it but it still ends up collapsing. Contrast that with attempting to dance the ground into hardening.