The EB Face Database: Faces Required For EBII!

**bobbin** · 11-20-2009, 00:02

Thank you Kelarchos & AncientFanTR, your pics have been added.

**stratigos vasilios** · 11-20-2009, 01:45

Hello chaps,

I was talking to my great grandfather (who is Greek) awhile ago and he was telling me some interesting things on the Greek people.

Supposedly prior to the 1000CE (or more likely much earlier in my opinion) majority of Greece were people had blonde hair and blue eyes, i.e. Northern European decent.

Unfortunately I have no literature to support my case, but supposedly the word Hellene meant blonde in ancient Greek and Hellenes or Hellenic meant blonde people?

The migration of the Turyké tribe (apologies for spelling?) from modern day Turkmenistan/Kazakhstan to the Asia Minor region in the 900'sCE(?) added the dominant 'dark features' genes to the gene pool i.e. dark hair, heavy beards etc

He also said something along the lines of Alexander's army mostly had blonde hair? Basiacally the recessive genes.

Again im not certain on the accuracy of these statements, he is very old...and quite possibly delirious...

If this were true, how much would it impact on the face database?

Again I am deeply sorry for the lack of supportive literature, but hopefully some of the historians or general forum users can point me in the right direction. I hope this all makes sense.

SV

**bobbin** · 11-20-2009, 02:47

The question has been answered before (on this very page infact) multiple times in this thread have a look at the prevoius posts.

As for the meaning of the name Hellenes it's believed to mean "our people"

**Ludens** · 11-20-2009, 10:44

Please drop the ethnicity discussion, guys. The team is well aware that there have been some major shifts in the past two millenia. This thread is for pictures of faces, nothing more.

**Subotan** · 11-20-2009, 11:01

http://gallery.photo.net/photo/3787927-lg.jpg - Kazakh
http://k53.pbase.com/g6/19/735919/2/...4.EP3Mgtwk.jpg - Kazakh
EDIT: Awesome Chinstrap

**Tretii** · 11-20-2009, 12:32

Here is my ugly face. Hope it will made its way to EB2.
I know it's not much to look at, but hei, I had sex once

so it means that it's not totally hopeless.https://img690.imageshack.us/img690/4003/fazef.jpg
Oh yeah, forgot to mention - I am of Russian origin with some asiatic blood in.

**bobbin** · 11-20-2009, 15:22

Thanks guys! good pictures

**Klearchos** · 11-20-2009, 10:32

Originally Posted by stratigos vasilios

Supposedly prior to the 1000CE (or more likely much earlier in my opinion) majority of Greece were people had blonde hair and blue eyes, i.e. Northern European decent

I've heared this theory before. But I have seen Englishmen and Scandinavians coming to the greek islands during summer and they always become pink in a matter of days

I guess the native people of the area would have developed some genetical "defence" against their natural environment.
Plus, the slavs may had a bigger impact in the popoulation (being christians like the greeks), than turks (with who intermarrying was not possible). So the "blonde" gene might be more recent in the greek area (no that it was totaly absent in ancient greece).

Anyway, for the subject at hand

http://www.newstime.gr/resources/200...humb-large.jpg greek

http://www.carmagazine.gr/assets/gal...apoutsis_1.jpg greek

http://media2.feed.gr/filesystem/ima..._type11758.jpg greek

http://cameraman.no.sapo.pt/SteveHarrisNEW.jpg Engish

http://s840.photobucket.com/albums/z...t=P1050486.jpg and that's

me! I'm Pontic Greek

Oh, here's my photo in imageshack, maybe it's more usefull (if you like it afterall) https://img233.imageshack.us/img233/773/p1050486.jpg