Sasaki Kojiro 06:36 11-20-2009
What does the union soldier bleeding from his eyesockets represent?
Kadagar_AV 06:38 11-20-2009
A Very Super Market won this thread.
Sasaki Kojiro 07:13 11-20-2009
I really like the original painting...
Fifty Stars--Represents the fifty states of the Union.
Some stars shine brighter than others.
Mr Hollywood--He represents the entertainment business in America. It is very apparant that there is a liberal slant with Hollywood.
He looks down at the judge and pregnant woman with ridicule and amusement.
CountArach 07:20 11-20-2009
That is truly briliant art.
Major Robert Dump 08:06 11-20-2009
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Azathoth 08:40 11-20-2009
Banquo's Ghost 09:10 11-20-2009
Some awesome irony in the mouseover notes. The very best being:
Originally Posted by :
Immigrant
Why does he have his hand up like that? There are many good people in America, they are not all Christian. I wanted him to have a look of shock when he realizes where the source of America's greatness comes from as he sees Christ holding the Constitution. We live in a country were (sic) we are free to worship as we please.
In a way, it's a pity he felt it necessary to explain the painting. Whilst not exactly first rank art, it ought to stand or fall by itself.
Wait, is that Cthulhu?
And basic constitutional law. I'm not even American, and I can point out the many inaccuracies.
Originally Posted by
A Very Super Market:
I shall win this thread
https://i.imgur.com/r4e2C.jpg
-Bit gory. NSFW, I'd say. Hide your children too.



Looks like something from BPRD!
Hosakawa Tito 11:56 11-20-2009
What? No Harry Truman? Start over.
Louis VI the Fat 12:13 11-20-2009
Genius painting. Thanks for sharing, that was a half hour well spend.
Rhyfelwyr 12:19 11-20-2009
I must cleanse my eyes with carbolic soap after seeing such an outburst of idolatry.
ICantSpellDawg 13:12 11-20-2009
I love it. My favorite is Stephen Breyer holding his head in shame
Kadagar_AV 14:08 11-20-2009
Originally Posted by
Louis VI the Fat:
Genius painting. Thanks for sharing, that was a half hour well spend. 
Just curious, what made it take half a hour?
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV:
Just curious, what made it take half a hour?
Reading all the little bits.
I like the Cthulu version best.
Aemilius Paulus 14:42 11-20-2009
Hmm, Jesus was from Gondor? I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT! Also, except for two individuals, all the black people are far in the back. How unsurprisingly racist... Plus, the black college student looks awkward. Very few college students are black if one looks at statistics, and anyway, the stereotype of a college student is more like a hippy, left-wing, radical, sex-crazed, unruly... you know, on and on.... The college student should have been with the other "sinners"On the other hand, a black American Soldier is just right.
Despite being only 12% of he US population, blacks make up a disproportionately large part of the American Armed Forces.
Louis VI the Fat 15:04 11-20-2009
Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV:
Just curious, what made it take half a hour?
Reading all the little commentaries. Reading up on some. Trying to find out what the artist's ideas are, how widely spread they are. Fascinating.
Do you know that this is LDS art? (Some would argue, LSD) It is both subculture and mainstream.
The 'liberal news reporter', along with the professor clutching Darwin's
Origin Of Species and the judge weeping over Roe vs. Wade, all huddled next to Satan, turning their backs to Jesus and the constitution.
That's the beauty about art, eh? One painting says as much as a thousand page study.
Edit: The artist does work from a template. Check this:
http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork...rtpiece_id=319
Edit 2: I am still fascinated. That's another half hour wasted. The 'art of reassurance'. Fantasy/new age, religious art, landscape/pastoral, assuring cityscapes.
Peculiar, is that McNaughton does not feature persons in his re-assurance works. Only in his policital and religious art. But they feature dead people* only. He is that disappointed in the modern world, that he does not even paint living persons. 'Grandma's rocking chair':
http://www.mcnaughtonart.com/artwork...rtpiece_id=165
*Then again, Moromons have some rather idiosyncratic ideas about the link between the death and the living.
InsaneApache 15:38 11-20-2009
The Thomas Paine inclusion is hilarious.
Originally Posted by Aemilius Paulus:
Hmm, Jesus was from Gondor? I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT![/URL].
Why am I not surprised...
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat:
Do you know that this is LDS art?.
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o.o
Originally Posted by :
(Some would argue, LSD)
Originally Posted by Hax:
Wait, is that Cthulhu?
That is not dead which can eternal lie. And with strange aeons even death may die.
Originally Posted by Banquo's Ghost:
In a way, it's a pity he felt it necessary to explain the painting. Whilst not exactly first rank art, it ought to stand or fall by itself.
I have to agree. Rather than looking at the painting itself, I'm simply reading the explanations for everything he chose to include. It nearly ruins the point, though the art itself is still very good. I wish i was half that talented with a brush.
Rhyfelwyr 18:39 11-20-2009
Why does he complain about criticisms of the idea of "One Nation under God", then go on to blame socialism for this (when a socialist coined the term)?
ajaxfetish 20:45 11-21-2009
Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat:
Do you know that this is LDS art? (Some would argue, LSD) It is both subculture and mainstream.
Yep. I could tell by a bunch of the guy's commentary. He used a very Mormon vocabulary, plus the work as a whole shows a fairly Mormon perspective on the state of the world and country. Then, we are very accomplished as a people at creating tacky art.
If you want to see some great art by a Mormon (though it's far from the mold of standard Mormon art subject material) look up James Christensen.
Ajax
Louis VI the Fat 21:31 11-21-2009
Originally Posted by ajaxfetish:
Yep. I could tell by a bunch of the guy's commentary. He used a very Mormon vocabulary, plus the work as a whole shows a fairly Mormon perspective on the state of the world and country. Then, we are very accomplished as a people at creating tacky art.
If you want to see some great art by a Mormon (though it's far from the mold of standard Mormon art subject material) look up James Christensen.
Ajax
Definately a better artist. Still not really my style, but clearly several steps up from McNaughton.
Yet, for all the tackyness of McNaughton's art, there is a consistent worldview behind his work, and he manages to express it in his work.
It took me a long while to discover that the OP's painting was not merely conservative and Christian fundamentalist, but a bit 'off' too. Mormon.
Strange that the LDS and 'mainstream' fundamentalist America should've grown towards each other so much. One can barely tell the difference anymore.
Have the evangelicals radicalised, or have the Mormons been assimilated? Important question, because at the current rate of demographics, in a few more decades, the Mormons and Catholic Latinos will own America. At least, the entire Southwest/West.
Also:
Bugger.
Originally Posted by Rhyfelwyr:
Why does he complain about criticisms of the idea of "One Nation under God", then go on to blame socialism for this (when a socialist coined the term)?
A socialist did not coin the term. The "One Nation under God" was added to the pledge later.
Aemilius Paulus 23:07 11-21-2009
Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars:
A socialist did not coin the term. The "One Nation under God" was added to the pledge later.
Yeah, which is only supports the fact we should remove it. If it was a tradition, I would leave it alone. But it is not. The pledge was tampered with in 1954. BTW, does anyone still remember how the people would do the 'Nazi salute' when reciting the pledge or the national anthem (called Bellamy Salute I believe)? Fun times...
oh teh lulz
Meneldil 23:10 11-21-2009
Tellos Athenaios 23:18 11-21-2009
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
What does the union soldier bleeding from his eyesockets represent?
My guess is what is left of historical veracity after the original painter has had its way with it.
Anyways this is just...
Originally Posted by :
Many of these men and women gave their lives so we could have the liberties we enjoy. We are now at a time when these liberties are in peril. Our government has grown so big and powerful that the rights of the individual are at risk. This is what the Constitution was about—to limit the size of government.
... (a) he actually believes that to such an extent; and (b) he does include Roosevelt among those ‘who had a positive effect’ on what you view as your liberties now in peril? Meh. That takes bent over backwards a bit far, doesn't it?
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