average lifespan of the elite roman class?

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So overall a Roman nobleman could expect to live to about 60. If you want to consider "non Imperials" look at the Bishops of the later Empire, Augustine lived to 74 and died during a siege (possibly from bad sanitation).

Another point to consider, the term of service for Imperial Soldiers was around 25 years (depending on unit, even the Praetorians did 22), the diploma of citizenship issued to Auxillaries came after 26 years, and we know many were issued because they survive today.

So, assuming joining at 16: 16 + 26 = 42 and upwards on completion of term of service. Ergo, soldiers could expect to live that long and some years after, given that many did only marry after their service was completed. Don't forget, there are lots of things you can do to avoid disease that the Romans knew about (i.e. quarantine and hygene), and it's important to understand that the "average" includes the careless, stupid and unlucky.

Eh no. Read what I wrote. They knew quarantine and hygiene sure, but ours are WAY better. ONE THIRD of Roman EMPERORS who died of natural causes died of diseases. What's the percentage of population of Europe that the black death killed? One third! What a great difference between imperial medical facility and quarantine control and what the average joe can get don't you think?.

I personally think the rest of noblemen (who already survived 30~40 years) would have been worse off by one or two, though Ludens has a point. And sure Augustine represent the average for all Roman nobles just like Augustus represent the average for all Roman emperors .

I see no reason to exclude counting shorter-lived emperors. They were not careless or stupid. And if they were unlucky the long-lived ones were just lucky. If you're going to do preferential sampling to push the number higher I could do preferential sampling and push the number lower

Soldiers still living at age 42 and then marrying is no surprise as the number already shown. Once again using West level 3, on average they would've has 19 years more to live. These are the bunch that were already lucky enough to already survive disease for 42 years, making them pretty set. However fatherless people, or complete orphans, were common.
On percentage of people who is still alive at the age of 15 (48 732 out of 100 000) reaching the age of 40 (31 208 out of 48 732) is 64%
What's the chance of a person enrolling at age 16 finishing his tour of duty? I say 75%. And disease would claim 90% of the deaths. At least they were saved from famine thanks to imperial logistics and pillaging.

You guys have to remember that throughout history one of the reasons that some people are remembered and not others is because these rulers were lucky enough to rule long and reign long, so had a long time to make their impact felt. That does not mean all were as lucky.

You also have to remember using age of both Saints and Emperors automatically exclude a lot of the people of the same class. An imperial prince who died at age 35 of typhoid while his dad was still in office is not counted. Meanwhile a monk who started to travel and spread the word at age 40 but died after 1 year of travel would not be made a saint because his impact was deemed not enough (or not at all). By making a list of emperors I'm already doing preferential sampling in favor of longevity, and the number still doesn't reach 60.

Also once again I'm not saying these people had bad lives or were short lived. They definitely done well (though looking at all other pre-modern civilizations the difference over time is well within 10 years). I'm saying for those people who think they lived as long as us or longer...
And Apázlinemjó, this is not the average life span, or even the average live span of people who survived to 15, but more like people who survived to age 30 to 35.