Ethnicities

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Megas Methuselah 01:51 11-22-2009

Now that we know about EB2's new region&culture system, this brings about another question: ethnicity traits.

I'll make this short. Will a faction's possible FM ethnicity traits in a campaign be expanded over time as new cultures are brought into their empire's fold? i.e. If Carthage conquers Gaul, will a Gallic ethnicity trait of sorts be available in possible suitors/adoptees?

XSamatan 18:08 11-22-2009

just unbelievable....

You managed to get from ethnicities in EB2 to USA vs France vs Germany...great.

BTT:
IIRC this feature is already implemented in EB1 for some factions. If you play some hellenic faction and conquer i.e. the home lands of epirus, you can get husbands/man of the hour with the ethnic trait.

I do actually think that this should be restricted in EB2. Most cultures would only relied on local authorities by some degree, a full ascension in the leading circle of a faction (that is what the FM are representing) was more a exception (correct me if I'm wrong here).
Furthermore is it not yet revealed by the team how they will use the client-ruler system of EB1 and if they use it.

XSamatan

Megas Methuselah 09:07 11-23-2009

Originally Posted by XSamatan:
IIRC this feature is already implemented in EB1 for some factions. If you play some hellenic faction and conquer i.e. the home lands of epirus, you can get husbands/man of the hour with the ethnic trait.

Yes, but it's limited. You wouldn't, as KH, get any Romani or Getai FM's. Perhaps this ethnicity thing may be a tad unrealistic in some ways. I wish Moros answered my OP rather than spam my thread with an off-topic post.

Cute Wolf 16:47 11-23-2009

I think this kind of traits could be triggered with double trigger. means when someone from that faction conquer a region (a trigger with condition , then a trigger for a new ethnicity type in suitors is relased.)

forgive my poor example, haven't test that yet... at least I know in M2TW, the Princess also has trait that determine their suitors.... (maybe this was an example, how a Makedonian strategos can get Avernii guy as his son-in-law, after he took Gergovia)

;------------------------------------------

Trigger AverniiGuyWillMarryYourGirl
WhenToTest GeneralCaptureSettlement

Condition SettlementName (Gergovia)
and FactionType (Makedon)

Affects AverniiGuyMarryYourGirl 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------

Trigger YourGirlCanGetAverniiGuy
WhenToTest CharacterComesOfAge
and AgentType = princess

Condition FatherTrait AverniiGuyMarryYourGirl > 0

Affects ThisGirlCanGetAverniiGuy 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------

Trigger AverniiGuyProposedForMarriage
WhenToTest OfferedForMarriage

Condition PrincessTrait ThisGirlCanGetAverniiGuy > 0

Affects Avernii 1 Chance 50
Affects Handsome 2 Chance 100
Affects GoodLeader 1 Chance 100
Affects TacticalSkill 1 Chance 100

;------------------------------------------

(get a chance to get Avernii suitors (normally makedon princess don't), because his father know some good looking and handsome warriors, and maybe some avernii get his proper attention)

EDIT: And I know that if we did this kind of double trigger, any faction without princess can't get expanded ethnicity

Cute Wolf 18:02 11-24-2009

Soory to bump this thread, but I want to ask, is someone had experience with princess related trigger?

Subotan 21:25 11-24-2009

This would be cool, if it was more general. I'm pretty sure the Greeks didn't care about what particular tribe a Celt was when he married into a Greek city state, and vice versa.

-42- 04:03 11-27-2009

I'm guessing ethnicity will have a major impact on loyalty.

Mediolanicus 11:14 11-22-2009

I hope something like that is possible. That would really give you the impression you are building up a multi-cultural empire.

Moros 18:45 11-22-2009

Please don't start spamming again.

If it's modern era military might you want to discuss, there's already a thread for it. If you don't want to make any sense, there's a tavern for it, if you want to post about EB and in this case ancient ethnicities then do carry on.

HunGeneral 20:08 11-22-2009

Enabling new ethnicities across the campaign would be nice - although I wonder how the team plans in this area...

Ludens 20:46 11-22-2009

Originally Posted by Moros:
Please don't start spamming again.

If it's modern era military might you want to discuss, there's already a thread for it. If you don't want to make any sense, there's a tavern for it, if you want to post about EB and in this case ancient ethnicities then do carry on.

Moros said it all. I will remove the OT posts.

Ca Putt 22:23 11-22-2009

It would be good to have some sort of regional restriction, I hate it when as soon as the Black sea Poleis rebell to me my empire is swarmed by Pontic client rulers :(

Darius 03:14 11-23-2009

I think it would be an incredibly great idea to allow conquered ethnic groups to begin getting recruited into your ranks not simply just as units but as generals and adopted/marriage/MoH family members as well. Given that they'd be of a foreign/mixed background, you could give each of the background traits that are non-native an influence penalty and/or a less likely chance to be elected/selected into any sort of office if they exist for that faction. Those that are entirely non-native should of course have a larger penalty than those who are just of a mixed background. Sure it doesn't sound like a big deal but I personally think it would help a great deal with adding to the immersion for the Role-Players.

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