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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    How is it a move towards democracy when democratically elected leaders are assassinated and replaced with a military dictatorship?
    The quoted text actually mentions autocrats, not democratically elected leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Is a coup counted as an assassination?
    No, but an assassination can be followed by a coup....

    Quote Originally Posted by miotas View Post
    The quoted text actually mentions autocrats, not democratically elected leaders.
    Well then it's kind of a no-brainer then, isn't it? A dictator sure as hell isn't going to relinquish his power(why on earth would he?), but when he's gone, his successor might not have the same oppression skills...

    No need for a study to prove that killing a dictator makes democracy more likely.
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    No, but an assassination can be followed by a coup....



    Well then it's kind of a no-brainer then, isn't it? A dictator sure as hell isn't going to relinquish his power(why on earth would he?), but when he's gone, his successor might not have the same oppression skills...

    No need for a study to prove that killing a dictator makes democracy more likely.
    It isn't a no brainer, and lots of no brainers end up being false.

    I have heard it argued before that assassinating a leader will just have someone just as bad step in. And perhaps someone more paranoid.

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    Now, now, please keep it civil, and please read the whole report and not just the few lines I quoted. That is supposed to give you a taste, not a conclusion. It's worth the read.
    Managing perceptions goes hand in hand with managing expectations - Masamune

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster View Post
    Now, now, please keep it civil, and please read the whole report and not just the few lines I quoted. That is supposed to give you a taste, not a conclusion. It's worth the read.
    51 pages? No way. My time for stuff like that is devoted to plowing through Anthony Beevor's excellent books...
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    51 pages? No way. My time for stuff like that is devoted to plowing through Anthony Beevor's excellent books...
    ... And posting one-liners...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordsMaster View Post
    ... And posting one-liners...
    Indeed!

    I do that while FM2010 does its processing thingy
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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    Quote Originally Posted by miotas View Post
    The quoted text actually mentions autocrats, not democratically elected leaders.
    Don't confuse him with trivial details like that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vladimir View Post
    Don't confuse him with trivial details like that.
    Sorry?
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

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