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I'm sorry Pevergreen.
:-\
Don't know why people are complaining. You don't have to buy it. The last special edition game I bought was in 2000 and gave me a OST. The last special addition I even remotely considered buying in a long time had some crappy but functional Light Amplification Goggles.
Maybe if it came with a hat like Napoleon wears on the box that you could actually wear I'd buy it.*hint*hint* :)
Don't know why people are complaining. You don't have to buy it. The last special edition game I bought was in 2000 and gave me a OST. The last special addition I even remotely considered buying in a long time had some crappy but functional Light Amplification Goggles.
Maybe if it came with a hat like Napoleon wears on the box that you could actually wear I'd buy it.*hint*hint* :)
I'm sorry antisocialmunky.
All types of units should be in the original game. They should not ask for additional money from us for other soldiers....
Its just business King Louise Assurbanipal, since you're not going to protest for every game that has a special edition, let it go. They just want to make money, a little more and a little more and a little more. It doesnt matter, since other industries are doing the same greedy practices so it happens in this one. Give it a rest. And in the end of the day you can just not buy it. Dont protest.
I would like to buy all units but... standard price (as Rome TW or Medieval 2 TW).
I don't like CA's policy after EMpire TW....
I don't like CA's policy after EMpire TW....
Yeah its lame, but oyu cna mod units in eventually.
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
Maybe if it came with a hat like Napoleon wears on the box that you could actually wear I'd buy it.*hint*hint* :)
I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument. Maybe if it came with a hat like Napoleon wears on the box that you could actually wear I'd buy it.*hint*hint* :)
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants:
I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
I don't know. Depending on how much other cheap stuff you stuff it with like a Napoleonic map, a fold-out unit reference sheet, posters, the extra units, special menu design, OST - you could mark it up enough to include a hat. I'd pay extra for the hat if I were buying the game.I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
Its a HAT for crying out loud. The reviewers love that sort of functional extra thing when they review special editions. :) Usef
Napoleon: Total War™- Imperial Edition Revealed
LONDON (24 November, 2009) – SEGA Europe Ltd. today announced that the next iteration of the critically acclaimed Total War™ series, Napoleon: Total War™ will be available in four different versions.
• Napoleon: Total War - Standard Edition. Includes the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack.
• Napoleon: Total War - Imperial Edition. Includes Premium Packaging, A3 Poster “The Life and Battles of General Napoleon Bonaparte”, the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack and the “Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars” Special Unit Pack.
• Napoleon: Total War - Digital Download (Steam Only)
• Napoleon: Total War - Imperial Edition (Steam Only), includes the “Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars” Special Unit Pack
UK consumers who visit GAME, Amazon or PLAY to preorder either the Standard Edition or the Imperial Edition of Napoleon: Total War will receive an exclusive elite unit, delivering a new and powerful strategic option to deploy in the name of your faction. Once the game is installed and verified by Steam, you can enter a unique code and unlock your elite unit, which will then appear in single player and multiplayer games.
In order to play Napoleon: Total War and unlock your exclusive unit you must connect to the internet to verify your game and code once during installation.
Details of the exclusive elite units are as follows:
HMS Elephant (available from GAME) is a ship of the line with an impressive broadside at close range. Good sailing qualities are secondary to the weight of broadside that she can both deliver and withstand.
Standard Edition - www.game.co.uk
Imperial Edition - www.game.co.uk
With twice as many guns as an ordinary artillery unit, the Grand Battery of the Convention (available from AMAZON) is an exceptionally strong unit. Its cannons have both a long range and tremendous killing power.
Standard edition - www.amazon.co.uk
Imperial Edition - www.amazon.co.uk
The Towarczys Lancers (available from PLAY) are a unique force in Prussian service: fast moving, and with high morale thanks to their self-belief. Trained to attack at the full gallop, their lances give them an advantage in the first few moments of hand-to-hand combat.
Standard edition - www.play.com
Imperial Edition - www.play.com
Napoleon: Total War builds on the successful Total War series by taking all the features from previous games such as full 3D land and naval battles, detailed campaign map, and an in depth diplomacy system but taking them a step further.
Napoleon: Total War releases in February 2010.
LONDON (24 November, 2009) – SEGA Europe Ltd. today announced that the next iteration of the critically acclaimed Total War™ series, Napoleon: Total War™ will be available in four different versions.
• Napoleon: Total War - Standard Edition. Includes the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack.
• Napoleon: Total War - Imperial Edition. Includes Premium Packaging, A3 Poster “The Life and Battles of General Napoleon Bonaparte”, the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack and the “Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars” Special Unit Pack.
• Napoleon: Total War - Digital Download (Steam Only)
• Napoleon: Total War - Imperial Edition (Steam Only), includes the “Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars” Special Unit Pack
UK consumers who visit GAME, Amazon or PLAY to preorder either the Standard Edition or the Imperial Edition of Napoleon: Total War will receive an exclusive elite unit, delivering a new and powerful strategic option to deploy in the name of your faction. Once the game is installed and verified by Steam, you can enter a unique code and unlock your elite unit, which will then appear in single player and multiplayer games.
In order to play Napoleon: Total War and unlock your exclusive unit you must connect to the internet to verify your game and code once during installation.
Details of the exclusive elite units are as follows:
HMS Elephant (available from GAME) is a ship of the line with an impressive broadside at close range. Good sailing qualities are secondary to the weight of broadside that she can both deliver and withstand.
Standard Edition - www.game.co.uk
Imperial Edition - www.game.co.uk
With twice as many guns as an ordinary artillery unit, the Grand Battery of the Convention (available from AMAZON) is an exceptionally strong unit. Its cannons have both a long range and tremendous killing power.
Standard edition - www.amazon.co.uk
Imperial Edition - www.amazon.co.uk
The Towarczys Lancers (available from PLAY) are a unique force in Prussian service: fast moving, and with high morale thanks to their self-belief. Trained to attack at the full gallop, their lances give them an advantage in the first few moments of hand-to-hand combat.
Standard edition - www.play.com
Imperial Edition - www.play.com
Napoleon: Total War builds on the successful Total War series by taking all the features from previous games such as full 3D land and naval battles, detailed campaign map, and an in depth diplomacy system but taking them a step further.
Napoleon: Total War releases in February 2010.
CA, I'm not going to buy the imperial edition for an A4 poster. Or an A3 poster. Or more units, I bought the Special forces edition of ETW out of faith after enjoying M2TW so much, enjoyed ETW but not as much, Please give us something kewls like tshirts or something besides just a poster! if all we get is a poster, what is the point? I even got a cloth map with my dragon age collectors edition.
T-shirts have to be one-size fit all. Also the quality is very cheap (Cue: Half-life 2 Limited Edition)
Originally Posted by King Louise Assurbanipal:
• Napoleon: Total War - Standard Edition. Includes the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack.
• Napoleon: Total War - Imperial Edition. Includes Premium Packaging, A3 Poster “The Life and Battles of General Napoleon Bonaparte”, the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack and the “Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars” Special Unit Pack.
From the Amazon UK website, it seems the elite regiment pack has 5 units and the heroes pack has 10 with the Imperial edition costing £5 more than the standard. • Napoleon: Total War - Standard Edition. Includes the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack.
• Napoleon: Total War - Imperial Edition. Includes Premium Packaging, A3 Poster “The Life and Battles of General Napoleon Bonaparte”, the “Elite Regiment” Special Unit Pack and the “Heroes of the Napoleonic Wars” Special Unit Pack.
http://www.totalwar.com/napoleon/add-ons/?u=1
http://www.totalwar.com/napoleon/add-ons/?u=2
Interestingly, they seem to be mainly "line" regiments with distinguished histories, rather than named "elite" regiments like Coldstream Guards etc.
The grand battery sounds the most attractive special offer unit, IMO. "Of the convention" does that mean French? The idea of a grand battery as a "unit" is a little odd though, as a grand battery was just an battlefield formation rather than a distinct unit like a regiment of Hussars or a named ship. Maybe it is just one way of getting more cannon into your stack of 20 units, which I guess is reasonable given the constraints imposed by that cap.
Honestly from that list, I ain't bothering. Nothing "historic" for me to latch onto certainly.
If I can find a copy for the same price as standard, yup. If not, CA can keep it.
If I can find a copy for the same price as standard, yup. If not, CA can keep it.
Originally Posted by econ21:
The grand battery sounds the most attractive special offer unit, IMO. "Of the convention" does that mean French? The idea of a grand battery as a "unit" is a little odd though, as a grand battery was just an battlefield formation rather than a distinct unit like a regiment of Hussars or a named ship.
Perhaps they mean the battery that Napoleon used to "disperse" the crowds in his rise to power.The grand battery sounds the most attractive special offer unit, IMO. "Of the convention" does that mean French? The idea of a grand battery as a "unit" is a little odd though, as a grand battery was just an battlefield formation rather than a distinct unit like a regiment of Hussars or a named ship.
Originally Posted by antisocialmunky:
I don't know. Depending on how much other cheap stuff you stuff it with like a Napoleonic map, a fold-out unit reference sheet, posters, the extra units, special menu design, OST - you could mark it up enough to include a hat. I'd pay extra for the hat if I were buying the game.
Its a HAT for crying out loud. The reviewers love that sort of functional extra thing when they review special editions. :) Usef
Just as a point of reference--quality reproduction military headgear--especially for this period is quite cost prohibitive. There is not a huge demand, so most of these items are custom built by small shop milliners and hat makers. Decent Napoleonic bi-corns made of basic quality felt start in the $250 range and go up based on the quality of materials and construction. I don't know. Depending on how much other cheap stuff you stuff it with like a Napoleonic map, a fold-out unit reference sheet, posters, the extra units, special menu design, OST - you could mark it up enough to include a hat. I'd pay extra for the hat if I were buying the game.
Its a HAT for crying out loud. The reviewers love that sort of functional extra thing when they review special editions. :) Usef
Anything less going to be some crappy Halloween costume piece that will fall apart shortly after it is removed from the box.
Would you pay $300-$350 for the game just to get a hat? BTW, reproduction dragoon and cuirassier type helmets can run well over $1000 US.
However a small statue or bust of Napoleon done in pewter, resin, or some plastic that simulates stone or marble might work.
Cheers
There was an interesting (although hardly original) discussion on DLC and mod tools just prior to ...
I'm actually hoping this may catch Captain Fishpants' attaention so that we can actually start some discussion on NTW/ETW and any related corperate strategies.
Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants:
I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
I'm not one to verbally attack CA/SEGA but seriously. This thread gets 'graced' with a reply from a CA member and all he can comment on is about someones joke. Common you're chance was right there. Sell your product, or try at least. Any info/opinion is better than nonsense.I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
I'm actually hoping this may catch Captain Fishpants' attaention so that we can actually start some discussion on NTW/ETW and any related corperate strategies.
Looks at Fishpants' signature
Originally Posted by Peasant Phill:
There was an interesting (although hardly original) discussion on DLC and mod tools just prior to ...
I'm not one to verbally attack CA/SEGA but seriously. This thread gets 'graced' with a reply from a CA member and all he can comment on is about someones joke. Common you're chance was right there. Sell your product, or try at least. Any info/opinion is better than nonsense.
I'm actually hoping this may catch Captain Fishpants' attaention so that we can actually start some discussion on NTW/ETW and any related corperate strategies.
Oh, nonsense has its place in the great scheme of things, you know. The "hat edition" was a serious discussion in the office: there was a case to be made for doing a pack priced in the hundreds rather than tens of pounds, providing the right extras could be included. However, this is all moot now. There was an interesting (although hardly original) discussion on DLC and mod tools just prior to ...
I'm not one to verbally attack CA/SEGA but seriously. This thread gets 'graced' with a reply from a CA member and all he can comment on is about someones joke. Common you're chance was right there. Sell your product, or try at least. Any info/opinion is better than nonsense.
I'm actually hoping this may catch Captain Fishpants' attaention so that we can actually start some discussion on NTW/ETW and any related corperate strategies.
As to saying much else, I don't think that would be a very good idea. Apart from anything else, I don't feel particularly qualified to talk about ETW and I tend to stick to subjects that I know about. This does make my posting style and frequency look a little whimsical, I know, but better that than I create any misleading impressions.
NTW is currently playable, is moving towards completion, and will either be to your taste or not. If you choose to buy it, then you'll have fun with it: there's plenty to keep everyone occupied.
As to corporate strategy, that's definitely not my area of expertise any more. And such things would not be discussed in a public forum anyway.
Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants:
Oh, nonsense has its place in the great scheme of things, you know. The "hat edition" was a serious discussion in the office: there was a case to be made for doing a pack priced in the hundreds rather than tens of pounds, providing the right extras could be included. However, this is all moot now.
As to saying much else, I don't think that would be a very good idea. Apart from anything else, I don't feel particularly qualified to talk about ETW and I tend to stick to subjects that I know about. This does make my posting style and frequency look a little whimsical, I know, but better that than I create any misleading impressions.
NTW is currently playable, is moving towards completion, and will either be to your taste or not. If you choose to buy it, then you'll have fun with it: there's plenty to keep everyone occupied.
As to corporate strategy, that's definitely not my area of expertise any more. And such things would not be discussed in a public forum anyway.
More than fair enough...pity you can't ask someone more "in the know" the reasoning behind these extra units (why pick/make up these ones?) rather than the stratergy behind them as we all know that's about the Bengi's.Oh, nonsense has its place in the great scheme of things, you know. The "hat edition" was a serious discussion in the office: there was a case to be made for doing a pack priced in the hundreds rather than tens of pounds, providing the right extras could be included. However, this is all moot now.
As to saying much else, I don't think that would be a very good idea. Apart from anything else, I don't feel particularly qualified to talk about ETW and I tend to stick to subjects that I know about. This does make my posting style and frequency look a little whimsical, I know, but better that than I create any misleading impressions.
NTW is currently playable, is moving towards completion, and will either be to your taste or not. If you choose to buy it, then you'll have fun with it: there's plenty to keep everyone occupied.
As to corporate strategy, that's definitely not my area of expertise any more. And such things would not be discussed in a public forum anyway.
I'm upset not to have historically accurate elite regiments to enjoy and hence won't bother with a purchase as it's not going to add enjoyment to my N:TW game.
Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants:
Oh, nonsense has its place in the great scheme of things, you know. The "hat edition" was a serious discussion in the office: there was a case to be made for doing a pack priced in the hundreds rather than tens of pounds, providing the right extras could be included. However, this is all moot now.
As to saying much else, I don't think that would be a very good idea. Apart from anything else, I don't feel particularly qualified to talk about ETW and I tend to stick to subjects that I know about. This does make my posting style and frequency look a little whimsical, I know, but better that than I create any misleading impressions.
NTW is currently playable, is moving towards completion, and will either be to your taste or not. If you choose to buy it, then you'll have fun with it: there's plenty to keep everyone occupied.
As to corporate strategy, that's definitely not my area of expertise any more. And such things would not be discussed in a public forum anyway.
Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.Oh, nonsense has its place in the great scheme of things, you know. The "hat edition" was a serious discussion in the office: there was a case to be made for doing a pack priced in the hundreds rather than tens of pounds, providing the right extras could be included. However, this is all moot now.
As to saying much else, I don't think that would be a very good idea. Apart from anything else, I don't feel particularly qualified to talk about ETW and I tend to stick to subjects that I know about. This does make my posting style and frequency look a little whimsical, I know, but better that than I create any misleading impressions.
NTW is currently playable, is moving towards completion, and will either be to your taste or not. If you choose to buy it, then you'll have fun with it: there's plenty to keep everyone occupied.
As to corporate strategy, that's definitely not my area of expertise any more. And such things would not be discussed in a public forum anyway.
I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
Originally Posted by Peasant Phill:
Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.
I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
I don't think that is what it is about at all.Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.
I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
If you look back over the last year or so you will find that there have been any number of informative posts by members of the CA staff.
It has mostly been Jack Lusted but he is a much more frequent visitor than most of the others.
Usually when the information starts to dry up it has been at times when had I been a CA employee, I wouldn't have wasted much time trying to inform or talk to anyone because at times the forums have been in a state of hyper-complaint.
If I guess correctly Captain Fishpants was not on the credits of ETW.
I didn't know if he was still there in other than name but it is good to see him around.
He has always been a bit more comic than informative, but that just may be his personality.
It will be interesting to see if he shows up on the NTW credits.
One think I am not going to do is complain about the presence of any CA personnel on the boards, informative or joking.
Most of the time the information comes form asking the right questions or making incorrect assumption.
Most of their presence is passive, just reading what we have said and not a matter of any sales effort.
Originally Posted by Peasant Phill:
Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.
I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
I'd have to disagree. Most of it is actually useful information like when someone from the team explained the database format of the ETW internal file structure.Firstly, thanks for answering. I know it's not your fault you can only post witty comments.
I made that comment because of the fact that the 'CA employee'-pressence on the .Org is for a big part just a marketing tool mostly used just before an upcoming release. Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
You get what I'm trying say. Something stops being a productive tool when it only appears to do what it's for.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
@Fishypants. I'm sad there is no hat edition. However, don't let that stop you from posting more often now that ETW hate has died down a little.
Originally Posted by Peasant Phill:
Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
Personally I really like when the CA folks show their face. I know this isn't a good time for CA folks to show their faces around here, and seeing guys like fishpants and lusted really tells me how much CA (or at least some of their employees) care about their fanbase. I mean nobody's making them come out and respond to your whimsical fancies about a bicorn-laden special edition (which would be pretty cool, admittedly), and, in my opinion, any response from the CA employees is better than no response.Adding to that, that pressence is nothing more than nonsensical replies when it should inform.
Sure, nonsense has it place. But information has a bigger one.
Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good:
A cruel jest, surely.
I don't think it would be a cruel jest. Modders add content to games and extend the game's interest to gamers. I'm not saying a modder should take every unit CA releases as DLC and steal them and offer them as pirated units (certainly not). However, if a modder sat down, did his own personal research, and painstakingly created the unit of his own accord from scratch (well, sorta), I think that would be fine.A cruel jest, surely.
Personally, however, I would pick French or Spanish or Austrian units over piddly American (elite units?!?) any day.
Originally Posted by Captain Fishpants:
I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
I would have bought it for the hat.I wanted the hat edition too, complete with a big hat box as the packaging. And given that I'm taller than our marketing people, I thought I'd win the argument.
Unfortunately, it would have cost far, far, far, FAR too much to manufacture, let alone store, ship and retail. Nice hats are not cheap.
Another idea shot down over the coast of conceptuality by the flak of reality.
The program, on the other hand, still doesn't run on my computer so I'm not liable to buy it without the hat.
maybe they can have an ultra limited edition which actually does have this hat, has a signed copy of the box or something and they make about 100 of them too see how many people are actually crazy enough to buy one. That way it actually gives those hard core collectors something to collect, or make 20 or 10 and give them away in some big competition.
Let it go, guys. I think it's rather clever that, through easy to use DLC, we can contribute to additional unit production which perpetuates official work on the game beyond the previous shelf life. Most likely in a couple months these special forces will be available for 3 or 4 bucks anyway. If you have poor impulse control, you will pay for it (not just here, but in every area of your life). If you do not, you can;
-wait for the fire sale DLC
-wait for a modder to create them for free with even more detail
-create interesting units yourself
Just because a company creates a product for a fee and you want it doesn't mean you are entitled to it by default. That is crazy
I love STEAM because it has opened up so many neat opportunities for both PC gamers as well as their developers. Steam will revolutionize PC gaming because it is revolutionizing PC game revenue potential.
-wait for the fire sale DLC
-wait for a modder to create them for free with even more detail
-create interesting units yourself
Just because a company creates a product for a fee and you want it doesn't mean you are entitled to it by default. That is crazy
I love STEAM because it has opened up so many neat opportunities for both PC gamers as well as their developers. Steam will revolutionize PC gaming because it is revolutionizing PC game revenue potential.
Originally Posted by :
-wait for a modder to create them for free with even more detail
A cruel jest, surely.-wait for a modder to create them for free with even more detail
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