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**Louis VI the Fat** · 11-25-2009, 00:56

Originally Posted by Just Vuk Again

The women only ever care about make-up, drinking, men

Ooh, sounds like an awful place.

I couldn't cope.

**Vuk** · 11-25-2009, 01:08

Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat

Ooh, sounds like an awful place.

I couldn't cope.

It is not a social event though Louis, it is an institution of higher education. It is supposed to be there (and parents pay lots of money) to educate people, not to make getting laid easier. Why would you waste your time and money going to college if you don't care about getting an education? It is an insult to higher ed.

**Papewaio** · 11-25-2009, 01:44

Social education is more important... only a very slim percentage of people actually spread new memes... the rest have to figure out to spread their genes.

**Vuk** · 11-25-2009, 01:51

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Social education is more important... only a very slim percentage of people actually spread new memes... the rest have to figure out to spread their genes.

Don't get me wrong Pap, I am not saying that meeting people, socializing, etc is bad or anything, I am just saying that at a University it makes sense that education should be their priority. You know what, if it isn't, there are a lot of misfortunate, underpriviledged people who would love to have a chance at the opportunitty that they throw away. And think of how dishonest the education system is being to employers who think that these people graduating are not going to be clueless.

**Papewaio** · 11-25-2009, 02:25

Communication is about the most important thing to an employer. Most degrees are not creating professionals, and the few that are tend to have post graduate components (CPA for accountants, specialisation for medicos).

A lot of people get into uni nowadays that is why the value of degrees has watered down... it is 2 parts supply and demand and 1 part decline in standards... in IT there are vapour certs, I'm sure there are institutions with a bad brand name that have a similar problem with their Bachelor degrees.

End of the day go out like an Aussie... Play Hard, Work Hard.

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One other thing, remember you are not competing against the lazy ones, not even the top 20% at your institution. When it comes to degrees and their value you are in an international pool of competition, and just like sport if you ain't training your opposition is.

I train other engineers and one of the things I told them is 'The moment you get comfortable with the technology learn something new or you will slide backwards.'

**Major Robert Dump** · 11-25-2009, 03:44

I had one run in front of my car the other day and I hit it. Stupid things come into the suburbs looking for food LOL what retrads!

**Vuk** · 11-25-2009, 03:56

Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

I had one run in front of my car the other day and I hit it. Stupid things come into the suburbs looking for food LOL what retrads!

lol, good for you! It is worth any damage to your car!

**Husar** · 11-25-2009, 10:10

Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump

I had one run in front of my car the other day and I hit it. Stupid things come into the suburbs looking for food LOL what retrads!

Well yeah, I'm an idiot, but what can I do about it? Is anyone able to transfer wisdom to me or do I have to go and live in the wilderness for two years?

**pevergreen** · 11-25-2009, 05:24

Originally Posted by Papewaio

I train other engineers and one of the things I told them is 'The moment you get comfortable with the technology learn something new or you will slide backwards.'

My brother would like you.

http://www.sysreal.com.au/

Works for them.

But yes, people are lazy. I have friends that don't turn up, and barely pass.

I also have friends that do not turn up at all for the semester, go to the exam and get a 7 (highest grade)

Then you have people like our sapi who study hard and get good grades.

Then you have people like me, who can't even get into uni.

**Banquo's Ghost** · 11-25-2009, 08:41

The increase in numbers of students and pointless subjects has led to a significant fall in the value of university degrees.

Employers no longer much care if an applicant has a first degree, let alone if it is "Media Studies". They will look at which college (there's only a few in the world left that are known to keep high and rigorous standards) and the subject to determine worth.

From Vuk's post, one assumes this applies to the United States too.

**Seamus Fermanagh** · 11-25-2009, 18:04

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Communication is about the most important thing to an employer. Most degrees are not creating professionals, and the few that are tend to have post graduate components (CPA for accountants, specialisation for medicos)....

If you want to virtually guarantee zero marketability after college, get a comm degree. As a comm prof I would spend the better part of two years honing people's knowledge of communication etc. Then they'd graduate, with knowledge in a field that virtually ALL employers publicly claimed they couldn't get enough of, and barely 1 in 50 would find jobs in a related field or be hired because of that skill set. Most of them had to break into completely unrelated fields or get a master's in a completely different field to get hired as companies promptly ignored the very skill set they publicly claimed to desire. Eventually, the comm skill set would let these grads do well -- equalling or surpassing other similar groups of non-comm grads in terms of promotions and the like -- but in terms of out-the-door marketability it was useless.

The reputation for Comm, Theater, and English is pretty simple -- degrees for people who don't have the chutz-pah to go out and do something but wanted a safe secure party environment for a few years. That "rep" is over-simplified and a bit unfair, but it still persists and does affect hiring choices.

**Strike For The South** · 11-25-2009, 19:46

As a college studnet I can saftley say I only care about winning the Big XII.

Eveything else is seconday.

As it petains to the topic, there are plenty of mouth beathing retards who know how to build a bridge or could tell you how your digestive tract works but there are far fewer people who you'd like to be around.

Social education tumps book learning everytime.

Whats that old saying. It's not about what you know it's about who you know.

**Papewaio** · 11-26-2009, 03:02

I'm not confusing the ability to communicate ones professional skills with having a communications degree. Content still beats the wrapping, but an inability to communicate is not good. A PhD in a coma or an extreme introvert does not a great corporate professional make. The extreme introvert might make a good boffin however and there is more introverts in IT then other parts of our business.

In Aus we start off with our majors, we don't do a general year or two. It is straight in. That is why you can be a graduate at 20/21 years old with a B.Sc and that is the norm. Engineering degrees take 4 years to complete after finishing high school.