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    REX POLONIAE Moderator KLAssurbanipal's Avatar
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    Default Errors of units in the NTW

    Here I will show the errors of the latest units from the NTW. This topic will be helpful for CA to know how to fix all errors. This topic will be updated by me. :)

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    These are the most recent official screenshots released by CA.

    1. I found a few bugs units of hussars. Firstly, the CA has done is not the 5th regiment, but the 6th Regiment.

    2. CA forgot to give hussars trouser belts. They always wore trouser belt.

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    5e Regiment de Hussards - France:
    ''Light and fast, these veterans of the American War of Independence can quickly reach areas of the battlefield where they are most needed, cutting down the enemy with their curved sabres.''




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    Last edited by KLAssurbanipal; 11-25-2009 at 19:17.

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    Here I will show the errors of the latest units from the NTW

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    Default Re: Errors of units in the NTW

    Here I will show the errors of the latest units from the NTW
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    Default Re: Errors of units in the NTW

    Well, if those are the worst errors in NTW, we can sleep easy. Hussars wore different uniforms even within the same army and as long as they are suitably colourful, it won't trouble me whether they are those of the 5th or 6th.

    I'm more worried about how accurately the game models the units' historical capabilities. Things like ETW elite light infantry being feeble in melee, frigates outranging ships of the line and light dragoons firing and reloading rifles while riding at full pelt offend the historical wargamer in me much more than sartorial inaccuracies.

    However, on the 5th Hussars, I do not think CA simply confused the uniforms of the 5th and 6th Hussars. The picture you post of the 5th soldier is of a trumpeter and trumpeters in Hussars were dressed differently from troopers. I don't believe troopers of the 5th had red pelisses and trousers. Here's another depiction:

    http://www.napoleon-series.org/milit...sehussars.html

    According to that depiction, the problem with CA's 5th Hussars is that they have dark blue trousers and dolmans when they should be sky blue. But at least they do have the unique white pelisse.

    Another representation suggests the 5th Hussars may have sometimes had red hats:

    http://dare.paradise.net.nz/valeur/cavalry.htm#hussars

    I wonder if differences between service dress and full dress may account for the difference? Dark blue sounds more practical than sky blue on campaign. Or maybe there were changes over time (hats certainly changed)?

    On the fancy belts, note that neither of the two hussars in the pictures you link who are in campaign dress have them. Intuitively, they are precisely the kind of thing that one might expect to be left behind when out in the field.
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    I think CA should probably hire a couple of you as their Historical Accuracy personell
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    Default Re: Errors of units in the NTW

    They seem to have got the Pavlograd Hussars' right...I'm not sure about that shako, it seems like the wide style which didn't have the plume, as opposed tot he narrow sort which did...pretty minor detail, though :P

    Awesome regiment, too. They managed to tie up a whole French army for a day.


    The 17th jaegers are more or less correct, although they're lacking shoulder straps (yellow). And those wicked sideburns, while awesome looking, would probably have got the guy in the foreground flogged.

    It seems odd to make Russia's "elite" unit a shooty one. The stereotypical image of Russia at the time is that they were good in the melee and balls at shooting.

    Again, a good, if somewhat odd choice. The 17th Jaegers were a Caucasian unit, from Georgia, I think. They managed to hold off some absurd amount of Persians in one of the Russo-Persian wars, though.

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    Ah, almost missed the Moscow Musketeers. The uniform is alright, I suppose...again, missing the shoulder straps. They're using the old-style shako, though, which makes me sad. I much prefer the 1812 pattern.

    This one seems a somewhat...odd choice in comparison to the others...they weren't really an especially famous regiment, besides being one of the oldest in the army.
    Last edited by Sheogorath; 11-27-2009 at 04:48.
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