Nusantara : Total War

[plutoboyz]

Bayangkara for Pajajaran
Bhayangkara for Majapahit

how about that?

[Cute Wolf]

Bayangkara for Pajajaran
Bhayangkara for Majapahit

how about that?

Bayangkara = Pajajaran Regional security militia

Bhayangkara = Majapahit Elite Guards

---- Bedanya cuman pake BH apa ngga.... APPROVED!!!

[plutoboyz]

Bayangkara = Pajajaran Regional security militia

Bhayangkara = Majapahit Elite Guards

---- Bedanya cuman pake BH apa ngga.... APPROVED!!!

memang aslinya gitu, bedanya di konsonan awal ama kelas. coba aja baca naskahnya.

[plutoboyz]

btw, how about BGM? use default? or modify it too?

[Cute Wolf]

For our first relase, we'll use default music... we'll think about BGM later

[Rahwana]

For our first relase, we'll use default music... we'll think about BGM later

No... we will use Mak Lampir, Kuntilanak, and another mystery films soundtracks... as well as Lingsir wengi... as we secretly planned

[plutoboyz]

No... we will use Mak Lampir, Kuntilanak, and another mystery films soundtracks... as well as Lingsir wengi... as we secretly planned

so, we'll use some kind of "Indosiar-snake-guy-sinetron" BGM.

btw, degung? no? or other traditional music?

[Rahwana]

degung? no?

Well... maybe for the first relase... we won't actually include any music... (Now I am serious)
Because it wasn't our priority

[plutoboyz]

Well... maybe for the first relase... we won't actually include any music... (Now I am serious)
Because it wasn't our priority

ok, now lets forget music.

about our mods, how the progress? what we need except Modeler and skinners?

[Cute Wolf]

ok, now lets forget music.

about our mods, how the progress? what we need except Modeler and skinners?

Nothing except modellers and skinners

I have made the map, and sonic is the scripters...

Seriously... we just need modellers and skinners this time, as all is allready has someone who can doing that except modelling

[plutoboyz]

Nothing except modellers and skinners

I have made the map, and sonic is the scripters...

Seriously... we just need modellers and skinners this time, as all is allready has someone who can doing that except modelling

so we stuck here........

[Cute Wolf]

so we stuck here........

Don't say that... I just announce vacancy thread at TWC... maybe we'll get some modellers afterwards (if there was no skinners, I can skin myself... but I still learning about using 3DS max.... )

[plutoboyz]

Don't say that... I just announce vacancy thread at TWC... maybe we'll get some modellers afterwards (if there was no skinners, I can skin myself... but I still learning about using 3DS max.... )

good! hope we got replies there..

[Quirinus]

Hey guys... I have to resign from the team. Sorry about this, my results came out on Monday, and... well. You know the rest. Can probably make it again after May, if you guys still need any help by then.

[Rahwana]

Hey guys... I have to resign from the team. Sorry about this, my results came out on Monday, and... well. You know the rest. Can probably make it again after May, if you guys still need any help by then.

Don't worry then... thanks for all your input before Quirinus.. the four month before may is our modelling and skinning job (still need modellers though), and our historical research is only need to be cross verified once again (all historical research is done) Many thanks

[Cute Wolf]

Anyone knows Signifier One's account / username here? I PM him at TWC, asking for permission using his animation pack (as I Currently working with 3ds max, trying to create some units with vanilla anim, but found out that several unit needs specific animation, so we want to include his animation pack)

but he doesn't reply yet

[plutoboyz]

I thought it would be unfair if European got fancy and shiny faction logo while Nusantara faction not so I fix it, to make it equal and fashionable.

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note:
-I've no Idea how to fix Bintara's logo. it shape so unclear?
-I'm little suspicious, why only majapahit got clean logo while other got Jagged-edge logo.

What do you think?

[plutoboyz]

also, do you still need Pajajaran unit concept? if you need I'll upload them soon.

[Cute Wolf]

also, do you still need Pajajaran unit concept? if you need I'll upload them soon.

1)Bintara's logo are taken from the Royal Stamp of Demak, taken from signature in the front of Mesjid agung demak's door. The Majapahit logo are the only one I has made in Corel , as the other logo is simply photoshop-work of copypasta and simple filling of PHOTO (thanks for refining.... BTW)


2) Maybe their cav, or I just give some cav from another jawa army?

[plutoboyz]

...
2) Maybe their cav, or I just give some cav from another jawa army?

that the problem... I haven't had cavalry description. so far I only know that Puragabaya also fight mounted.

[plutoboyz]

Update: Bintara faction logo.

[Skullheadhq]

What about texturing some logos?

[Cute Wolf]

Anyone knows Signifier One's account / username here? I PM him at TWC, asking for permission using his animation pack (as I Currently working with 3ds max, trying to create some units with vanilla anim, but found out that several unit needs specific animation, so we want to include his animation pack)

but he doesn't reply yet

Just get his permission today... so we can start work arround with models at 3ds max, using his animation pack as reference skleton set

What about texturing some logos?

Hmm... maybe we should keep logo uniform this time....

[plutoboyz]

I hope This is Final.
Unit concept also already finished. just waiting my friend's scanner.

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Light Infantry:

-Pajurit: standard soldier
weapon: Pedang.
defensive: Shield

Bayangkara: standard Guards
weapon: Tumbak
defensive: shield
They are Pajajaran law enforcer. trained to face criminal. they are also a palace guard. altough their name was similar to Majapahit's Bhayangkara, they are very different. They are more Police than Soldier.

-(existence doubted)Militia: citizen
weapon: bedog, baliung, Kujang bangkong.
defensive: none

-(Mercenary)Jawara: mercenary champion
Weapon: golok
defensive: Martial art
They are skilled fighter of their village. learning various deadly martial art make them an useful mercenary. their weapon, Golok is a short broad sword useful for cutting off enemy.

Heavy Infantry:

-Ka Satrya Puragabaya: Elite Feudal Army.
weapon: Kujang Pangarak and pedang
defensive: cloth, Kanuragan, martial art.
Being a Puragabaya is a great honor. Puragabaya have a noble position among the communities. A Puragabaya combine nobleness, strength and eloquence of religion in him. Puragabaya a chosen young man who was appointed from among the nobility who have morals and manners of a noble and excellent physical ability. In order to become a Puragabaya must go through very heavy and difficult stages. Puragabaya required a simple life, living in a hermitage in the middle of the jungle, face exercises are the stakes are life. In addition to studying kanuragan art and martial art, Puragabaya also equipped with the religious knowledge. So a Puragabaya besides having very powerful and dangerous kanuragan, also has a high proficiency in religion.

-Pajurit Balamati Pajajaran: Elite Palace Guard
Weapon:Kujang Pangarak and Pedang
defensive: shield.
Description: These are backbone of Pajajaran Military. secret recipes of the "Never-Defeated Pajajaran". Balamati is a great army numbered a thousand men. Their job is palace security and safety of the king as well as his officer and his relatives. As a Pajajaran royal bodyguard, Balamati vow to protect the honor of Pajajaran to death. Their oath has been proven in Bubat incident. They have some kind of attack that could break enemy chest, known as Sentak Dulang

-Pamarang: Soldier
weapon: Pedang
Defensive: Shield


Missile Infantry:

-Pamanah: archer
weapon: Bow and arrow. also golok
defensive: still unknown. probably, none


Officer:

-Hulu Jurit: General
weapon: pedang, abet (pecut), pamuk, golok, peso teundeut, keris
defensive: His Balamati

Cavalry:

-Kuda windu (removed, because it was Cirebon army)

-Ka Satrya Kuda Puragabaya: Mounted Elite Feudal Army.
weapon:n Kujang Pangarak and pedang
defensive: cloth, Kanuragan, martial art.

-Pajurit Gajah Siliwangi: Elephant cavalry
weapon: arrow, elephant's ivory.
defensive: unknown

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[Rahwana]

Hmmm.... we're waiting for the scans!
BTW, I and CW are separated until next week (I Was at Cirebon now, and he in Bandung), so maybe we'll update this thread about next week.

[plutoboyz]

Hmmm.... we're waiting for the scans!
BTW, I and CW are separated until next week (I Was at Cirebon now, and he in Bandung), so maybe we'll update this thread about next week.

Here the scans, as promised.
PS: I forget to draw Jawara and Pajurit Gajah

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-Puragabaya, 90% accurate

-Balamati, 95% accurate

-Bayangkara, 90% accurate

-Pamanah, 90% accurate

-Pamarang, 90% accurate

-Mounted Puragabaya, 90% accurate

if you ask why no one 100% accurate, because I haven't found real authentic picture. all of that concept based on text description, ancient manuscript, oral tradition and archeological stuff from museum .

[Cute Wolf]

Just create a new forum for better managing our mod (but currently we made this forum as a "really drunken" forum....)

http://nu3tara.forumotion.net

[Rahwana]

Well, I allready made a lot of the mod concept, the final unit system (cutewolf will refine it soon), the historical research, and testing the balance system...

But now, I must withdraw myself from this mod, at least temporarily until Jul or August, as I must going to "employment practises lecture" (mata Kuliah Kerja Praktek), by going as physics (and maybe more) teacher at a highschool at mentawai. Well, actualy, that was a volunteer job because the lack of teacher there... well...

At least, next week, I will go with plane to padang, and then sail to the mentawai...

Cutewolf are allready know about this, and because of this, all the work of this mod are now all Cutewolf's authority...
I hope when I going back to Bandung, we allready had the firse relase of Nusantara : TW


Thank You very much!

[plutoboyz]

sorry for slow research. I have to translate some manuscript. I just got some info from my history teacher (luckily she is Pajajaran speacialist!). Pajajaran unit armor is mostly leather armor. its concealed under clothing.

tier 1 armor: Pajurit, Bayangkara, Pamanah
-leather armguard
-leather cuirass
-wooden shield
-leather arm ring

tier 2 armor: Pamarang, Balamati
-brass armguard
-leather cuirass
-leather-covered wooden shield
-decorated brass arm ring
-leather helmet (not sure how its looks)

tier 3 armor: Puragabaya(mounted and unmounted), hulu jurit
-gold-covered iron armguard
-leather cuirass
-decorated gold-covered iron arm ring.

also, Ganesh statue are considered as guardian statue. like sphinx statue on giza. probably because he is protector God. and there are many Hindu-Siva follower. altough, Pajajaran has its own religion (Sunda wiwitan).

just asking, will Pajajaran have military reform? Jayadewata reformed Pajajaran military and also dig a trench around Pakuan. and later pajajaran have access to firearm due to Sunda-Portuguese treaty.

[plutoboyz]

I propose this trait list for Pajajaran FM only.

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-Tohaan (lord)
descr: This man have known for his stragical and tactical skill. He deserve this title.
effect: +command point, +morale, +loyalty, +security


-Silihwangi (Successor of Wangi)
descr: This man have done great deeds. He is true man.
effect: +influence, +management

-Bélapati
descr: For him, running from battlefield is a disgrace. This man fight to death!
effect: +morale, +loyalty

-Sang Haji Ratu Pakuan (King) or Sri Paduka Maharaja (still king)
better we take description and effect from faction leader trait

-Ngéwa Ka Jawa (Hate Javanese, much like hate roman on EB)
descr: Due to Bubat incident, this man hate Javanese. especially Majapahit.
effect: +Morale, +command point against Majapahit

ethnicity

-Pituin (Pure Sundanese)
descr: This man are pure descendant of Sunda.
effect: +Influence, +loyalty

-Urang Cai (Water man)
descr: This man Hometown is Kawali. Capital city of Galuh
effect: +Morale

-Urang Gunung (Mountain man)
descr: This man Hometown is Pakuan. Capital city of Sunda
effect: +hitpoint

and for naming

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Name (no surname)taken from Sunda Galuh Kings

Jayadéwata
Tarusbawa
Harisdarma
Sanjaya
Tamperan
Barmawijaya
Gilingwesi
Windusakti
Limbur Kancana
Munding Ganawirya
Sri Jayabupati
Sanghyang Ageng
Darmaraja
Sang Mokténg Winduraja
Darmakusuma
Linggabuanawisésa (My fav!)
Bunisora
Susuktunggal
Surawisésa
Nilakéndra
Ragamulya
Suryakancana
Citraganda
Ragasuci
Sang Mokténg Taman
Linggadéwata
Atmayadarma
Rakeyan Kamuning
Pucukbumi
Mundinglaya
Guru Gantangan
Sang Pamanah Rasa
Cakrabuana
Walangsungsang
Sang Lumahing

Name. from known Tohaan
Jagabaya
Ratu Sangiang
Ratu Saréndét
Anepaken
Pitar

Name. from Novel
Banyak Sumba
Mandiminyak
Anggadipati
Wirapraja
Tajimaléla

and if possible, could you please make Pajajaran Monotheistic? for historical accuracy.