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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic View Post
    We'll get this points to elephant balancing (allready tested how they wreak havoc (at this stat) against some model test units. Currently, cutewolf are working on refining his elephant skins...

    ; Gajah pekerja, diambil dari yang biasa dibuat kerja di hutan... ngga pake baju.
    type field worker elephants
    dictionary field_worker_elephants ; Gajah Pekerja
    category cavalry
    class heavy
    voice_type Medium_1
    soldier greek_peltast_elephant, 20, 10, 1
    mount gajah kecil
    mount_effect horse +5, chariot +7
    attributes sea_faring, can_run_amok, frighten_foot, frighten_mounted, very_hardy
    formation 6, 10, 12, 16, 4, square
    stat_health 1, 4
    stat_pri 7, 45, javelin, 70, 45, thrown, simple, piercing, spear, 15 ,1
    stat_pri_attr thrown ap
    stat_sec 7, 45, no, 0, 0, melee, other, blunt, none, 0 ,0.35
    stat_sec_attr area, launching, ap
    stat_pri_armour 5, 5, 0, flesh
    stat_sec_armour 16, 7, leather
    stat_heat -3
    stat_ground 0, 0, -5, -2
    stat_mental 11, impetuous, untrained
    stat_charge_dist 100
    stat_fire_delay 20000
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 6, 8000, 2000, 400, 400, 8000
    ownership sassanids, berbers, huns, goths, sarmatians, vandals, slave
    That's only for the elephants, right????
    maybe we should make the "Elephant Riflemen", like the Maratha ones. that can only be made when the
    Natives are allied with the Europeans, like the British in India,
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    Simply no, we didn't have Elephant gunmen animation for BI, maybe we could use the carriage ballista anims, but that will be ridiculous (allready tested with bucelarii as models), even our elephant javelinmen will use chariot javelinmen animation, means that the rider will hush-hush with his hand when moving...

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    I have a model for Infantry (I found it when I was searching Google)

    for some Militia
    but u know, I did'nt have a goddamn Idea where I found it, I think it's M2TW or something, cuz the units are'nt in one Standard Model
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius Septimus Severus View Post
    I have a model for Infantry (I found it when I was searching Google)

    for some Militia
    but u know, I did'nt have a goddamn Idea where I found it, I think it's M2TW or something, cuz the units are'nt in one Standard Model
    pardon me if you don't want me here, but it does come M2TW, because the men in that unit is wearing differant hair stlyes and bands.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samofrome View Post
    pardon me if you don't want me here, but it does come M2TW, because the men in that unit is wearing differant hair stlyes and bands.
    Hello, sam
    Care to Join usin our effort to make a mod????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samofrome View Post
    pardon me if you don't want me here, but it does come M2TW, because the men in that unit is wearing differant hair stlyes and bands.
    Hiya, new face here.... are you a Singaporeans, Thai, Bruneian, Filipino, Kampucheans, or Vietnamese?
    Or you are Portugese, Dutch, Spaniard, French, English, German, or Turkish?

    It's a surprise to see you here.... we're need some help now!

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    And about M2TW models, there was several skins for a model, but apparently we can just keep the basic model, and reskin it for RTW puropses...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    Hiya, new face here.... are you a Singaporeans, Thai, Bruneian, Filipino, Kampucheans, or Vietnamese?
    Or you are Portugese, Dutch, Spaniard, French, English, German, or Turkish?

    It's a surprise to see you here.... we're need some help now!

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    And about M2TW models, there was several skins for a model, but apparently we can just keep the basic model, and reskin it for RTW puropses...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cute Wolf View Post
    Hiya, new face here.... are you a Singaporeans, Thai, Bruneian, Filipino, Kampucheans, or Vietnamese?
    Or you are Portugese, Dutch, Spaniard, French, English, German, or Turkish?

    It's a surprise to see you here.... we're need some help now!

    ---------------------

    And about M2TW models, there was several skins for a model, but apparently we can just keep the basic model, and reskin it for RTW puropses...
    He's a Brit, he lives in England,
    BTW, thx for wanting to help us, Sam
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    Heck... the lastest source we read (babad Sriwijaya).... suggest that the Javanese Spearmen..... use OVERHAND SPEAR!!!


    Now we must start to look for other's animation to be used in our mod... I allready confirm that with a real historian (he was history lecturer in UPI, we've meet when I ruining reading the UPI library about history...), he says that the evidence of Javanese line spearmen use overhand spear fighting could be seen in the Prajurit Jogo Karyo, from Palembang, Cirebon, and Yogyakarta, that still could be seen (in ceremony) even today... as they use overhand naturally because they tend to fight in really dense formation (Heck! that was too similar with Hoplite warfare!!!)



    Maybe we can use javelinmen animation for melee what did you think?

    EDIT : After reading much about the royal bloodline of mainline Indonesian monarch and Kingdoms
    -> Sriwijaya -> Kediri -> Singosari -> Majapahit -> Demak -> Pajang -> Mataram -> Yogyakarta
    we've known that the first Sriwijaya King (Dapunta Hyang Sri Jayanasa), was land on Sumatran shore with a refugee force of 20000 men strong. He was the eldest of surviving Princes of Sakawana Dynasty (Saka dynasty in India), that sucesfully evade the Ghupta's attempt to wipe them out of existance. He led his army that made of surviving nobility to evade Saka genocide that happened in India, and for more interesting things to point out, the Saka Dynasty adopt Hinduism... BUT DID NOT ADOPT THE CONCEPT OF CASTE!!! - Just like what happened in Indonesian Hindus today!!!

    His core troops was made with Heavily armoured nobles, wearing helmet that shaped like (kacang mete) - that explains WHY TRADITIONAL JAVANESE HELMETS HAVE TEH SHAPE JUST LIKE PHRYGIAN CAPS!!!

    And armed with bows and lances... his levies including some mounted archer scouts (WUT mounted archers?) and bow and sword armed levies.... (so we're saka descendants afterall....)

    Well, those Hoplite like fighting style must be carried off from Baktria.....
    I didn't think we'll discover this kind of surprising facts.....

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    For more interesting Information... Why the most Javanese Nobles have *cough* much lighter skin than most commoners?
    That was happened because they aren't the native Javanese at all (at least they wasn't native 1400 years ago *cough*), they are Saka, and they tend to give their Saka blood to their fellow Saka... (that's why the rich Javanese family in not so long time ago forbids their daughters to marry lesser classes... no caste.. yes, but "pseudo interracial" marriage are rare (I call this pseudo because all were belongs to one Javanese race now). And while the nobility usually kept their archery skills, they gradually lost taste on daily horse riding (who want to rode a horse in muddy fields?), but still employs much light horse archers as scouts, as well as keeping some elite armoured HA for the nobility. The muddy plains on Indonesian archipelago (and java as the best case), did give some advantage to hit and run archery, but Quite disadvantage towards charging cavalry, that's why the Cataphract type of fighting are quickly phased out, in a favour of Bows and Swords combo. In the other hands, heavy infantry fighting in towns, seems to largely untouched until the advent of gunpowders (they still wearing plate/mail/scale armour, and fought as Saka Hoplites). that was why, Javanese heavy spearmen are depicted fought in very dense formation, while their lesser militia brethren fought much different way, with underhand spears...... Damn.... white Javanese are more Saka......

    Too bad... Sonic is Black Javanese....
    Last edited by Cute Wolf; 12-17-2009 at 15:37.

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