Nusantara : Total War

**Cute Wolf** · 01-20-2010, 19:49

Originally Posted by Quirinus

Do you mean you wanted the unit names translated into Malay, or...

Sorry, a bit slow.

Yah, their name in Malay (soory my bad english....)

And Plutoboyz....
Hmm... tiger was actually a common symbolism in Hindu - Buddhist kingdoms in Indonesia... what made the Pajajaran different was a lot of Ganesha statues found.... interesting, but I must wait for sonic first... afterall, he was the head historian... and know better about that

**Rahwana** · 01-21-2010, 02:22

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Ok, so CW want me to speak in this matter...

Actually, this symbol is quite Ambigous... it was certain that Prabu Siliwangi was called "Macan", but it was rather a special case because his Heroism, and Ganesha statues are far more common in Pajajaran sites. Doesn't expect the faction will take a symbol which they only use in just 20 years, replacing what they use for 400 years.

Memang benar kalau masih belum jelas bahwa lambang ganesha belum tentu lambang pajajaran... tapi itu simbol yang paling sering terlihat... kalau lambang kujang atau macan... hanya ada pada beberapa situs tertentu, yang berhubungan dengan prabu siliwangi...

**Quirinus** · 01-21-2010, 05:41

Originally Posted by Cute Wolf

Yah, their name in Malay (soory my bad english....)

Okay I will get to that... though as you guessed, I am Chinese, and English educated, so my Bahasa Melayu is full of holes. Give me two days?

Also, question to Sonic:

Preliminary research suggests that modern Malay names are derived from Arabic, Javanese and Sanskrit in addition to Malay... do you mean me to compile the Malay-derived names only, or the others as well? The article also says that most modern Malay names are Arabic-derived, I don't know if that was the case in the timeframe of the game?

**Cute Wolf** · 01-21-2010, 06:13

Heheh... That's ok, as I was Chinese descendants too...

...

AFAIK, most of the Malayan names after the spread of Islam are Arabic derived first name, with still Indo-language family name...... But they will use several words then...

We'll try to adjust the family name and front name... just like in EB, where two word front and family name can be found.... Just like "Abdullah Abdul Razak" will be "Abdullah" First name, and "Abdul_Razak" family name, and "Alaudin Riayat Syah" will be named "Alaudin_Riayat Syah", and "Seri Prameswara Dewa Syah" will be named "Seri_Prameswara_Dewa Syah"... so the Engine could generate some cross genrated name as "Alaudin Riayat Abdul Razak"...... well... did u understand?

**plutoboyz** · 01-21-2010, 13:51

friend, I know this is crazy idea but how about putting ganesha, tiger and kujang together?

sorry, can't resist

**Cute Wolf** · 01-21-2010, 14:04

Hahaha... don't forget this is a historical based mod, so we try to stick to what history say

Oh yeah, nice pic!

.... I want to show it at my almamater....

(Gw dan sonic kuliah di ITB!!!) and hat they'll say....

**plutoboyz** · 01-21-2010, 14:33

since we dont have information about Pajajaran logo, why we not use Galuh logo? they are once one kingdom, right? and during Sri Baduga Maharaja, this two kingdom is reuited.

**Cute Wolf** · 01-21-2010, 14:39

Originally Posted by plutoboyz

since we dont have information about Pajajaran logo, why we not use Galuh logo? they are once one kingdom, right? and during Sri Baduga Maharaja, this two kingdom is reuited.

According to our historians, the Ganesha were their military symbol.... the only statue that Sunan Gunung Jati destroyed when he raze Keraton Pajajaran was Ganesha one... so it was their symbol of Military might...