Hardly anyone pays their own way when they get sick. It's the whole premise of the insurance industry, and why it only makes money because there are people who don't get sick. Insurance companies like the Blue Cross that began as non-profits that insured everyone could not keep in business because the fact that they insured everyone made their premiums skyrocket....people moved to the for-profits insurance companies because those companies could maximize profit by choosing who they covered based on risk, and had premiums that were lower. The whole premise behind why the Blue Cross started is ultimately what killed it and turned it for-profit.

People who get sick and have more health problems raise the cost of insurance for everyone who is insured with that company. People who get sick and have to rely on medicaid do the same thing.

I would actually argue that your two arguments here 1) no socialized medicine and 2)no fat tax, could be mutually exclusive.

I mean, if we end up with socialized medicine, there damn well better be a fat and sin tax or else the thing is gonna sink us quick. People will take less care of themselves, there will be a "why bother the guvment will take care of me" mentality

If we don't have socilaized medicine then there should be no fat tax as it will simply go to a general slush fund like social security always did and be spent willy nilly on what ever the fed wants.