Is Hitler the only racist left?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Racist isn't a description. It's more of a judgement.

[Beefy187]

I think it was tasteless thing to say as man with such an influence.
But in general, I think its only racist if the ones being offended took it seriously.

[Megas Methuselah]

It must be comfortin' to know such an influential man in the government has such interestin' personal opinions on Africans.

But in general, I think its only racist if the ones being offended took it seriously.

Huh?

[Papewaio]

Actually you have mis-read the comment. He is saying Asians are "only half-monkeys", implying that Africans are "full monkeys".

Easy way to see if this is racist is reverse that comment.

"Try visiting Denmark instead of Norway. From there you only get halfmonkeys." or whatever demeaning term that is sometimes applied to those of Nordic descent.

I would say Roger Madsen would be charged with racial vilification if he was in Australia. I think Asian and Africa and Australia should put an embargo on Norway until he is removed from office and an apology is given out. I for one will start my own avoidance of Norwegian products today. Easy as I prefer Danish Buttercookies.

Have a nice weekend... I'm going home to my 'Half monkey wife and quarter monkey child with the Swedish surname."

Yes the guy is a vile racist.

[aimlesswanderer]

Oh dear, not exactly a good look is it? Perhaps he should refrain from, visiting, oh, most of the world, where varieties of monkeys abound. I am not sure if anyone has called me a half monkey before, that is a new one.

[Megas Methuselah]

I hope he comes over here and gives me a banana.

[Sigurd]

Actually you have mis-read the comment. He is saying Asians are "only half-monkeys", implying that Africans are "full monkeys".

Easy way to see if this is racist is reverse that comment.

"Try visiting Denmark instead of Norway. From there you only get halfmonkeys." or whatever demeaning term that is sometimes applied to those of Nordic descent.

I would say Roger Madsen would be charged with racial vilification if he was in Australia. I think Asian and Africa and Australia should put an embargo on Norway until he is removed from office and an apology is given out. I for one will start my own avoidance of Norwegian products today. Easy as I prefer Danish Buttercookies.

Have a nice weekend... I'm going home to my 'Half monkey wife and quarter monkey child with the Swedish surname."

Yes the guy is a vile racist.

I agree that this FRP character is nothing but a racist. But he did not state that Asians are half-monkeys.

His reference were to Africans as Africa is the last word in his first statement:
"Prøv å besøke Østen istedenfor Afrika. Derfra kommer det bare halvaper. De må ha 2-3 generasjoner på å tilpasse seg, og det ser man støtt i media"

"Try visiting the East instead of Africa, where only half-apes resides. They need at least 2-3 generations to be able to adapt, which is shown in the media all the time."

These FRP (progress party) characters are a legacy from the early days of this party, when the party had a rather darker shade of blue. (far right wing). The new generation FRP politicians are more moderate - but still deep blue.
I doubt, should the party get any real power, that characters like Roger Madsen would have any say in how politics, which concerns other cultures, are conducted.

But we can't hide the fact under a bushel, that racist elements flock to FRP when there are very few other parties with certain immigrant views. In fact, it is more or less the only party which have an issue with the current immigrant laws.

[HoreTore]

These FRP (progress party) characters are a legacy from the early days of this party, when the party had a rather darker shade of blue. (far right wing). The new generation FRP politicians are more moderate - but still deep blue.
I doubt, should the party get any real power, that characters like Roger Madsen would have any say in how politics, which concerns other cultures, are conducted.

A nice theory, Sigurd. Unfortunately wrong though.

Roger Madsen isn't a part of the "old guard", he's your "new generation", he's 45 years old and was elected into the city council in Moss for the first time in 2003.

And I sincerely doubt that his views are rare in the progress party. The central leadership confirms that quite well with their reaction, which was "he made a mistake and apologized, business as usual now". They don't care in the slightest that their central members are flamin' racists. That is what has changed in the Progress Party. They haven't become less racist, if anything they've become more.

Remember Vidar Kleppe and Jan Simonsen? Both excluded for similar racism this guy stands for. They got the full exclusion circus. Nothing happens this time.

Also, Moss FRP is one of the party's largest chapters. You saw Ulf Isak Leirstein during the debate as financial spokesman for FRP? Leirstein is the leader of Moss FRP, Madsen is the second leader. Madsen is also chosen as fraction leader in the city council. That means he's on the fast-track to parliament.

[Andres]

And I sincerely doubt that his views are rare in the progress party. The central leadership confirms that quite well with their reaction, which was "he made a mistake and apologized, business as usual now". They don't care in the slightest that their central members are flamin' racists. That is what has changed in the Progress Party. They haven't become less racist, if anything they've become more.

So they are hypocrit racists. Racists who don't have the balls to just admit that they are racists and to say what they really think.

He didn't make "a mistake", he just showed his real face and it's not a pretty one

[The Stranger]

I agree that this FRP character is nothing but a racist. But he did not state that Asians are half-monkeys.

His reference were to Africans as Africa is the last word in his first statement:
"Prøv å besøke Østen istedenfor Afrika. Derfra kommer det bare halvaper. De må ha 2-3 generasjoner på å tilpasse seg, og det ser man støtt i media"

"Try visiting the East instead of Africa, where only half-apes resides. They need at least 2-3 generations to be able to adapt, which is shown in the media all the time."

implying that what is shown on TV and in the media is therefore true, just and maybe only because it has been on TV. which is a major error a lot of people make, wether it concerns internet, books or TV... if the people that are supposed to lead countries think that way... i think 2012 might not be so much of a joke...

[Husar]

I agree that this FRP character is nothing but a racist. But he did not state that Asians are half-monkeys.

His reference were to Africans as Africa is the last word in his first statement:
"Prøv å besøke Østen istedenfor Afrika. Derfra kommer det bare halvaper. De må ha 2-3 generasjoner på å tilpasse seg, og det ser man støtt i media"

"Try visiting the East instead of Africa, where only half-apes resides. They need at least 2-3 generations to be able to adapt, which is shown in the media all the time."

Yeah, I get your point, HoreTore should make correct translations, because I thought the same as Papewaio.

There's another mistake HoreTore made because Hitler is not left, he died many years ago unless you believe he fled to the moon or something.

Either way this guy seems a bit like a racist, yes.

[HoreTore]

Either way this guy seems a bit like a racist, yes.

This is the heart of the issue.

This man says africans are half-apes. And people are for some reason still unable to plainly say that the guy is a racist.

[The Stranger]

I think it was tasteless thing to say as man with such an influence.
But in general, I think its only racist if the ones being offended took it seriously.

well actually thats not true, its more the people that it doesnt concern but who are offended by it that label it racism... I find that the people I know would be easier offended if someone called me something rascist than myself. Also they sometimes hesitate to say certain phrases around me while really cant be bothered by it. my closest friends that really know me dont ofcourse but people ive just met do.

the bigger question would be is the problem of an offense in the intent of the offender or is it in the taking insult of the offended?

ps if he had said something like that relating jews and holocaust we would have a total media uproar... or regarding muslims, same thing. had he offended china he wouldve been dead.

[Furunculus]

I think it was tasteless thing to say as man with such an influence.
But in general, I think its only racist if the ones being offended took it seriously.

that attitude was the most poisonous result of the Macpherson report, the idea that racism is in the eye of the beholder, and i reject it utterly.

[rory_20_uk]

So does British law, to the extent that if someone feels that they have been the subject of a racist incident ipso facto they have been - and can commence discipinary action.

[Prussian to the Iron]

I think it was tasteless thing to say as man with such an influence.
But in general, I think its only racist if the ones being offended took it seriously.

How will most africans (Central and South) even know about it?


sorry, had to take it.


but really, i think this is racist. id put him on suspension from his job, and bring him back in a few months to see if he's re-thought his views on africa.

[HoreTore]

How will most africans (Central and South) even know about it?

I don't know.... Perhaps if a bunch of africans, you know.... Lived here.... In this country... As immigrants...

Sure glad they don't though!