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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    See, this is what you get when you vote populist. Sure, they usually sound all well and good - Less taxes! Libertarianism! No immigration! National sovereignity! Norway for the Norwegians!

    But then you always end up with these sort of people. Some YouTube filth writer, elevated to the position of politician. What a laugh.
    lol, wanting to be free of government oppression via taxes and laws = closet racist.
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    We share over 99% of our DNA with Monkies. Anyone who thing they are not monkies are in denial. (or the Nile, if they fancied a swim.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    We share over 99% of our DNA with Monkies. Anyone who thing they are not monkies are in denial. (or the Nile, if they fancied a swim.)
    Well in fact we aren't, we share a common ancestor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    lol, wanting to be free of government oppression via taxes and laws = closet racist.
    Uhm, I do believe you misunderstood what Louis said there...

    Can't quite figure out how you interpreted his statement in that way though.... Or are you denying that this guy is a racist, or do you claim that he does not represent a party who wants less taxes, more nationalism and no brownies?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    No but calling Africans half-apes is, don't know what else to make of it.
    The Devil's Advocate in me wishes to make the point that Africa has peoples from all over the globe - whites, blacks, Indians and Arabs. If he'd specified "Black" then you'd be on firmer ground.

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    We share over 99% of our DNA with Monkies. Anyone who thing they are not monkies are in denial. (or the Nile, if they fancied a swim.)
    Since a lot of DNA is scaffolding and basic cell function, you need to go quite a long way from Primates before it drops below 70%

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    Go and watch "World's Strictest Parents", they usually have families in America host British children and do a far better job than the parents here.
    Never defended methods here. I think that many parents either fail to have any responsibility or try to be their children's friend. In this African, Caribbean and Indian methods often have a lot in common - stricter, boundries, some corporal punishment and aspirations. When I have my own kids I either need to find a nice ghetto to live in or else emigrate.

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    Lecturing Madsen on the specifics of primate genetics or human genotypes found in Africa I think misses the point.
    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    The Devil's Advocate in me wishes to make the point that Africa has peoples from all over the globe - whites, blacks, Indians and Arabs. If he'd specified "Black" then you'd be on firmer ground.
    Oh, come on. We all know who he is referring to. He did not mean the whites in Botswana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    He did not mean the whites in Botswana.
    No he can't have done that; I mean, our Crown Prince may be inbred and all, but he's no monkey...

    That description is more fitting of his sister's husband.... And the sister herself, come to think of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    The Devil's Advocate in me wishes to make the point that Africa has peoples from all over the globe - whites, blacks, Indians and Arabs. If he'd specified "Black" then you'd be on firmer ground.



    Since a lot of DNA is scaffolding and basic cell function, you need to go quite a long way from Primates before it drops below 70%



    Never defended methods here. I think that many parents either fail to have any responsibility or try to be their children's friend. In this African, Caribbean and Indian methods often have a lot in common - stricter, boundries, some corporal punishment and aspirations. When I have my own kids I either need to find a nice ghetto to live in or else emigrate.

    you can go devils advocate all you want, you can say that if you read what it says he might have said nothing that is that bad or blablabla... but we all know what he meant... and he knows it too otherwise he wouldnt have (semi)apologised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    lol, wanting to be free of government oppression via taxes and laws = closet racist.
    Uhm, I do believe you misunderstood what Louis said there...
    Can't quite figure out how you interpreted his statement in that way though.... Or are you denying that this guy is a racist, or do you claim that he does not represent a party who wants less taxes, more nationalism and no brownies?
    errrmm, let me see:
    Quote Originally Posted by Louis
    See, this is what you get when you vote populist. Sure, they usually sound all well and good - Less taxes! Libertarianism! No immigration! National sovereignity! Norway for the Norwegians!

    But then you always end up with these sort of people*. Some YouTube filth writer, elevated to the position of politician. What a laugh.

    * reference to racist in the first post
    yeah, that about covers it.
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    lol, wanting to be free of government oppression via taxes and laws = closet racist.
    You are aware that this is how the right-wing nationalistic populism looks like? Usually with some vague reference of a lost paradise, lost because of the immigrants!

    Most right wing parties aren't populist or even nationalistic of course, but oddly enough does the these relativly new right-wing nationalistic populist parties sweeping over Europe follow that description fairly close.
    And nationalistic populism has very strong tendency to be racist, due to simplistic solutions on problems and high national pride with a tendency to distrust immigrants. Combine and you get "all your problems are because of the immigrants, poisoning your wells, cursing your cattle and bewitching your womanfolk. Remove them and all your problems will be gone."
    your perception is your problem, not mine.

    louis let fly with a sweeping generalisation, i let fly with a rebuttal. i am happy that my response is valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    louis let fly with a sweeping generalisation, i let fly with a rebuttal. i am happy that my response is valid.
    Not following you, unless you consider wanting to be free of government oppression via taxes and laws = No immigration! National sovereignity! Norway for the Norwegians!

    You know that other essential part Louis mentioned...

    Louis: "Those Orange parties are bad."
    Furunculus: "Hey don't insult red!"
    Everyone else: "Huh? The orange comes from yellow, why they like red we don't know but they do."
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    Furunculus, not everybody who favours lower taxes is a populist. But all the rightwing populist parties that are currently sweeping over Europe share roughly the same traits that I described, of which lower taxes is a natural part.

    Once in an elected office, especially at the lower levels, these populist politicians almost invariably turn out to be such depressingly inept muppets that even their very own voters are thoroughly put off. And they usually don't have very high standards to begin with.

    At the top, Europe's populist parties consist of well educated, sharply dressed people with a deliberate aura of some moderation. This top is usually very narrow. Directly below, below the first ten or twenty members of their organisation, there gapes the abyss already. That army of shady businessmen, taxi drivers, outright criminals and other muppets who fill their ranks and run for elected office. In their minds, they are the ones who ought to run the country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    Furunculus, not everybody who favours lower taxes is a populist. But all the rightwing populist parties that are currently sweeping over Europe share roughly the same traits that I described, of which lower taxes is a natural part.

    Once in an elected office, especially at the lower levels, these populist politicians almost invariably turn out to be such depressingly inept muppets that even their very own voters are thoroughly put off. And they usually don't have very high standards to begin with.

    At the top, Europe's populist parties consist of well educated, sharply dressed people with a deliberate aura of some moderation. This top is usually very narrow. Directly below, below the first ten or twenty members of their organisation, there gapes the abyss already. That army of shady businessmen, taxi drivers, outright criminals and other muppets who fill their ranks and run for elected office. In their minds, they are the ones who ought to run the country.
    i accept what you say, specifically, that there are a lot of populist, right-wing parties in continental politics that are deeply unpleasant, that wouldn't get the time of day here, and who i wouldn't want to give the time of day too.

    i totally reject the the disdain for populism, especially when among those who laud the actions of the EU.

    populism is essentially the acquiescence to the will of the electorate, something that is deeply at odds with the way the EU has handled the whole lisbon constitution/treaty, and i will always jump up and down to point out the fact.

    to my mind, the disdain for popularism among much of european political commentary is nothing more than a disdain for the failings of the voter, which is really a contempt for representative democracy.

    >I< do not worry about demagogues in Britain, though i do appreciate the problem is more realised elsewhere in the less 'perfect' parts of the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    populism is essentially the acquiescence to the will of the electorate
    Funny then, that no populist party gets even close to 50% of the votes during an election....

    If they actually represented "the will of the people", surely they'd get much more than 50%?
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    I don't think he was a racist, as he might have actually been talking about monkeys. It's a well-known fact that monkeys in asia are more liberal and open-minded and prone to race mixing and therefore more diverse, whereas the monkeys in Africa don't believe in "mixing the monkeys" and tend to be more hard-line, secluded and inbred.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    I don't think he was a racist, as he might have actually been talking about monkeys. It's a well-known fact that monkeys in asia are more liberal and open-minded and prone to race mixing and therefore more diverse, whereas the monkeys in Africa don't believe in "mixing the monkeys" and tend to be more hard-line, secluded and inbred.
    As long as they don't mix together, then some of those asian monkeys start to complain. Chinese example. Only to note that the western world is not the only place with rascists running around if anyone thought that (and because I've just red about it).
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    As long as they don't mix together, then some of those asian monkeys start to complain. Chinese example. Only to note that the western world is not the only place with rascists running around if anyone thought that (and because I've just red about it).
    I can scarcely think of more racist countries than China and Japan. A majority of Japanese consider all 'gaijin' little more than monkeys.

    China semi-officially propagates the idea that the Chinese split of from the rest of humanity 500000 years ago. Chinese are humans, all the others are some sort of Neandertal apes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironside View Post
    As long as they don't mix together, then some of those asian monkeys start to complain. Chinese example. Only to note that the western world is not the only place with rascists running around if anyone thought that (and because I've just red about it).
    oh not, racism/discrimination is to be found everywhere in the world... (I know that asia is pretty bad also, the adore westerners, hate pretty much anything else... wont ever show or admit it freely/openly though.) but you find racism in africa too.. or south-america...

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    I need some math help. My childrens' grandmother is Thai. So my wife is half Thai, making my children 1/4 Thai. So, are my kids only 1/8 monkey?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    I need some math help. My childrens' grandmother is Thai. So my wife is half Thai, making my children 1/4 Thai. So, are my kids only 1/8 monkey?
    I only read this because you posted here, still funny but you're getting much tamer.

    Wasn't that long ago you mentioned my mum and teabagging in the same post, ah, the good old days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastatin Dave View Post
    I need some math help. My childrens' grandmother is Thai. So my wife is half Thai, making my children 1/4 Thai. So, are my kids only 1/8 monkey?
    depends from which point of view u look at... :P

    are the thai the monkeys here or are you? or none of you? or maybe both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    I don't think he was a racist, as he might have actually been talking about monkeys. It's a well-known fact that monkeys in asia are more liberal and open-minded and prone to race mixing and therefore more diverse, whereas the monkeys in Africa don't believe in "mixing the monkeys" and tend to be more hard-line, secluded and inbred.
    so then one would suspect that the half-monkeys would be found in asia instead of africa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    lol, wanting to be free of government oppression via taxes and laws = closet racist.
    You are aware that this is how the right-wing nationalistic populism looks like? Usually with some vague reference of a lost paradise, lost because of the immigrants!

    Most right wing parties aren't populist or even nationalistic of course, but oddly enough does the these relativly new right-wing nationalistic populist parties sweeping over Europe follow that description fairly close.
    And nationalistic populism has very strong tendency to be racist, due to simplistic solutions on problems and high national pride with a tendency to distrust immigrants. Combine and you get "all your problems are because of the immigrants, poisoning your wells, cursing your cattle and bewitching your womanfolk. Remove them and all your problems will be gone."

    Beskar, do you honestly belive that this particular comment had anything to do with genetics?

    The only thing I can somewhat agree in is that it takes a few generations to fully assimilate (aka. disappear into the statistic average), longer if they try to keep a subgroup. To adequetly adapt, the main part of integrating, usually take much shorter time though.
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

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