Quote Originally Posted by Owen Glyndwr View Post
Horatius - may be an obvious one, but was perverted nutjob a reference specifically to Caligula? How often did things like that happen in the Roman world before Caligula?

I admit that is the wrong time period, but is it really Rome without Caligula?

There are some horrible emperors who acted like Caligula, Principate anyway, Dominate Emperors of course claimed they were divine


There is some traits that you mention already on Eb1, like the Optimates, like the Popularis, like Mocks the Gods, these ones i belive is certain, and the are some others im not sure but i belive i already seen then in EB1.
My point is also this arent new traits.
like Raised by his mother, although there is Mother in law for instance. there is alot. why you dont take a look at the traits in EB first?! just a sugestion
Having a mother inlaw in your retinue and raised by his mother as a trait are different. Family issues were important in Roman elections, and being abandaned by your father to be raised by your mother would be an issue if it happened (not that unlike today). There are some very prominent Romans who's father had nothing to do with their upbringing, and the topic came up for all of them, although in the case of the Grachii it seems to have helped instead of hurt.

Questions about the father and why he was or wasn't there are very Roman. The Mother Inlaw is universal, she will hound you and set her spies on you in every culture