Switzerland About To Vote On Minaret Ban

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

You're both correct. We do need a younger population to sustain us, but there is no reason for mass immigration from the Middle East or Africa to fill this need.

There is if you don't have babies. That's where more people come from.

Europe needs this immagration to sustain there current welfare state. You need more people paying into the system. Lets not kid ourselves now.

No, actually immigration is hurting, not helping. Although immigrants do (just about) make a net tax contribution, they are putting a strain on social housing, hospitals, and especially schools, that we would not otherwise have. I'd rather have a few lean years, followed by stability, than perpetual decline.

Peaks and troughs are part of population, just like they are part of the economy; and we all no what happened to Gordon Brown's "No more boom and bust".

Eventually the government will need to enact a Chinese-style one-child policy, because they are artificially inflating the long-term issue in order to fix a short term issue.

[Strike For The South]

No, actually immigration is hurting, not helping. Although immigrants do (just about) make a net tax contribution, they are putting a strain on social housing, hospitals, and especially schools, that we would not otherwise have. I'd rather have a few lean years, followed by stability, than perpetual decline.

Peaks and troughs are part of population, just like they are part of the economy; and we all no what happened to Gordon Brown's "No more boom and bust".

Eventually the government will need to enact a Chinese-style one-child policy, because they are artificially inflating the long-term issue in order to fix a short term issue.

This would require at the very least a partial dismantiling of the current social services you have now.

And even if it didn't those people are there now, so the point is moot.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

This would require at the very least a partial dismantiling of the current social services you have now.

And even if it didn't those people are there now, so the point is moot.

Is this really true though, your per-capita defence and healthcare spending are about double ours. If children are not being born, then they aren't placing a 18-21 year burden on our economy. People work until 65, or longer, then retire and live another 18-21 years on average, so if we have fewer children, and less strain due to overcrowding, we should be able to afford it.