Recruiting Iberi Lancearii with the Lusotann?

[roman dude]

I don't know if it is supposed to be this way, but for some reason in my Lusotann campaign, I can't recruit Iberi Lancearii no matter what government I have, even though I have built every building I can in each of my cities (i used process_cq and i control the whole Iberian peninsula). I looked in the export_descr_unit file, and it said that spain and egypt could recruit the Lancearii, but so far I've only seen Carthage be able to do so. I'm running on the alex version of the mini mod pack, anyone know what is going on?

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

I believe they require either a lvl 4 regional or lvl 5 regional barracks. What is worth noting is that they require REGIONAL barracks rather than native. That means you will need either a Type 3 or 4 government.

[roman dude]

Ok I understand now, I think I will just edit the file so I can get them with a level 1 gov't. Thanks!

[Ludens]

I believe they require either a lvl 4 regional or lvl 5 regional barracks. What is worth noting is that they require REGIONAL barracks rather than native.

That's true for the Carthaginians, but not for the Lusotanians. Also, according to the recruitment viewer, they require a level 5 barracks for the Lusotanians (type I government only) and a level 4 for the Carthaginians (type III or IV government). They are only available in Carpetania, Edetania and Lacetania (and technically Bastetaia and Turdetania, but IIRC you can't install type I government here). Are you sure you can't recruit them when these conditions are met?

BTW, Spain and Egypt are the names of the vanilla R:TW factions: in EB these slots are taken by Lusotania and Carthage.

[bobbin]

Nope Lusotanians require a level 5 regional barracks to recruit the Lancearii, this strikes me as a bug though.

[athanaric]

Nope Lusotanians require a level 5 regional barracks to recruit the Lancearii, this strikes me as a bug though.

Oh yes, I just recently discovered that the hard way.

[Ludens]

Nope Lusotanians require a level 5 regional barracks to recruit the Lancearii, this strikes me as a bug though.

That does sound like a bug. I am moving this to the main forum to see if we can get a response from the team there.

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

Yeah, no real reason the Lusotann would want to build type 4 governments in Iberia so why make the cavalry a lvl 5 barracks and not lvl 4 like Carthage? I'm on the side of a bug.

[Kival]

That's true for the Carthaginians, but not for the Lusotanians. Also, according to the recruitment viewer, they require a level 5 barracks for the Lusotanians (type I government only) and a level 4 for the Carthaginians (type III or IV government). They are only available in Carpetania, Edetania and Lacetania (and technically Bastetaia and Turdetania, but IIRC you can't install type I government here). Are you sure you can't recruit them when these conditions are met?

Which recruitment viewer Do you use? In my one, which was part of the downloads of EB 1.1 and 1.2 it is said, that lusotannan can recruit iberian units only in regional barracks. And I think that makes scence, because the iberians should not be seen as part of the Lusotannan and if you want to have iberian units, you need to give some of your iberian provinces some kind of freedom (Lvl III and IV Government). Historical wise I'd believe, that the whereas Carthaginian use of iberian soldiers is proofed, no Lusotannan ever ruled over the eastern Iberians.

The only thing which disturbs me is that the northern iberian skirmishers are seen as native soldiers...

[Brave Brave Sir Robin]

I think the use of factional and regional barracks to differentiate the various warriors across the Iberian penninsula is meant to represent the different cultures present in the area during this timeframe. You have peoples heavily influenced by the Celts such as the Galicians, and Celtiberians. Others like the various Iberii soldiers are much more native Iberian in their culture and style of warfare. Unless I'm mistaken, the Lusotann have Celtic influences so it makes some sense that Iberian units need regional barracks.

For example, look further north and see that the Siluri Warband in Western Britain are regional units for the Casse. This represents their unique culture among the other various Brittanic peoples.

[Ludens]

Which recruitment viewer Do you use?

No idea, sorry. Everything on my computer had to be reinstalled, so I can't tell which RV version I was using for that post.